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Which will be a very useful satellite when the politicians want to cash
in their carbon credits... :) Brad Matt Yates wrote: You guys have been talking about the US pretty much exclusively (one guy mentioned Australia). What about all the scientists in all the other countries that agree that humans have an effect on climate change? Do you just ignore them because you can't vote for them?The IPCC report was a CONSERVATIVE estimation of climate change. It may be as it suggests, it may be much worse than that. The truth is, humans do a lot of little things that add carbon to the atmosphere. Things as simple as tilling soil can have huge impacts on releases of carbon. Interestingly NASA has plans to get a carbon sniffing satellite up in orbit so it can directly view large scale carbon emissions from space. It will show regions where carbon is produced and regions where carbon is absorbed. It will also illustrate where we've (humans) have altered how that happens. http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/oco-20081112.html So it will clear up the debate a little, dont you think? MattThe current big problem is the use of incorrect data to continue to support the global warming theories. Reading about the data NOAA is using and the errors in their programs and the covering up of their mistakes is just terrible and someone should hold them accountable for the bad data (lies) they have been publishing. The proof these things occur is that when they were called out on it and they denied it over and over until it was proven the data was just removed from the website with no replacement data or explanation. Larry White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5 LowCountry Miata http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net Masters Miata RAGS 074 From: Casey Wheeler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:41 AM To: Larry Alster; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Wow nmc mpc Thank you Larry! The only truth currently about global warming is that there is none. Over the last decade plus it has been cooling and most projections from NOAA (as biased as they are) say that cooling will continue for the next two plus decades. It has become a political battle rather than a scientific battle and I could argue that it has become a religious vs. science battle. Just because the 'political science think_tanks' says its happen doesn't make it so. I cannot think of any other democrat inspired 'crisis' that has been correct, why would this one be? Casey _____ From: Larry Alster <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: Wow nmc mpc Try reading some real science. I'm not talking some pollution stuff here, I'm talking global warming BS. REAL scientists that track real facts have proven that there has been no warming for years and there is actually cooling going on which is why the radicals are now using the term CLIMATE CHANGE because in a year or 2 you will hear them crying about how we are freezing the year and they will use the same reasons they used for claiming warming. Then there is the quality of the data they use. Read some of the stories by the researchers that have checked on the placement of the weather stations that NOAA uses for the data. Under heater vents. In the middle of a field in unshielded sunlight. One was behind the exhaust area for a place working on jet engines. The data is bunk, the conclusions are bunk. Stop listening to the Al Gore lemmings and read and listen to other sources too and maybe you might find it's a scam. Larry White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5 LowCountry Miata http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net Masters Miata RAGS 074 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:32 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Wow nmc mpc In a message dated 3/28/2009 12:00:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Uh, right! Man-made "global warming" has got to be the greatest of all the scams in history. It is truly amazing what happens when science and common sense are put on the back burner. I'm not trying to start a religious debate but there is just no evidence what so ever for this... Open your eyes. Living in denial will have us living in the Nile. _____ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% 3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62> yours in just 2 easy steps! _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower_______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list [email protected] http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower |
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