Larry,
Perhaps you don't understand the intelligence of my "stupid"
comments. Any legislation, that would have to be passed by the legislature
that shifts power away from the legislators isn't real and isn't going to
happen.
Anything called a fair tax, when implemented, will surely be
anything but fair, just look at the "patriot act", ot "loyalty oaths".
I was also making a back reference to the oxymorons previously
stated in this thread, and noting that a "fair tax" sounds as oxymoronic than
"military intelligence".
Speaking of military intelligence, isn't it great, all the
terrorist plots and busts they did this week? I'm glad OBAMA is keeping us
safe from terrorism.
Funny thing is the bush legacists keep saying that bush kept us
safe from terrorism. Funny I live ¾ of a mile from the largest terrorist
attack ever perpetrated on the united states and if I remember correctly it was
bushes administration that was in charge (or taking the longest vacations of
any president in modern times). Not to mention the successful attack on the
heart of our military industrial complex, the pentagon. They would have
attacked the capitol as well, if Americas first response wasn't a plane load of
civilian patriots (the leader of which was gay), who forced the plane to crash
in an empty field rather than let it hit the capital.
A 'fair tax" is as theoretical as the health care debate and what
each party "says" will be the consequences.
We can theorize about many things, but the overarching concepts are
important. Otherwise somewhere along the line, some politics, will emasculate
any kind of legislation and create unintended consequences.
Pay the same percentage?
Pay the same dollars?
Eliminate the loopholes?
Do I like the idea of a tax on consumption? I don't know. I do know it
sounded good to me 10 years ago.
Dan
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From: Larry Alster [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Dan Scolnick; 'Casey Wheeler'; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate / Gay Marriage
Hey Dan
Rather than just making stupid comments about it why don't you try the concept
about reading up on it before you mouth off.
Larry Alster
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Scolnick
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:48 PM
To: Casey Wheeler; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate / Gay Marriage
"Fair Tax"
Now there's an oxymoron, would that be the same dollar amount for
each person? But then the poor are paying a disproportionate percentage of
their income. This is probably ok, since the poor should pay more taxes since
they use more services.
OR
Perhaps a fair tax would be the same percentage for each person, children
included?, but then you have the dollar amount being "from each according to
his contribution" and "to each according to his ability" - sounds kinda
socialist.
Or perhaps a graduated income tax is fair as then people are paying according
to the opportunity they take advantage of. This is what I believe is fair.
Just don't touch my mortgage deduction!
Of course, wrt to gay "marriage" as it stands non-married couples have to pay
what I suppose could be called a "FAIRY TAX", or if they are radical enough to
want to adopt kids and raise them in a loving home a "FAERIE TAX"
Dan
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Casey Wheeler
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NMC - Healthcare Crisis Debate / Gay Marriage
Fair tax solves these tax issues. It is quite wonderful because we do have to
pay some level of taxes.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 27, 2009, at 10:05 AM, [email protected] wrote:
In a message dated 9/27/2009 8:56:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Jerry you're so convoluted it's actually funny,
I no longer have any interest in playing games with you because
you change everything everyone else says to your side before you answer.
That's the real problem Larry, We don't see things in the same way,
because our programming, what we have learned, varies so much. That's why our
Congressfolk have such a difficult time in working together.
...And THAT is what they must strive to overcome. When two parties
have an argument, and one simply stops talking or responding, the communication
is shut down and nothing gets done.
This fact is the most compelling reason for MORE political parties in
the USA. With more political parties, discussions are much more likely to
continue, so eventually an acceptable resolution to problems or compromise on
programs can be achieved.
Jerry
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