Chris Heuer's also a personal friend and I've reminded him on occasion
to locate his work to the Microformats wiki, but he seems to be
content to work on his own.

I don't think the process need always use the mf.org wiki, but it
certainly help -- since many folks watch the changelog.

So long as Chris knows that he could consult or work more closely with
us, I don't necessary see an issue with his work; I think it's
premature to call it a microformat or to name it, but besides that, no
biggie.

Chris

On 9/14/06, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've been in touch with them, offered to help them out, and my
understanding is they're planning to "follow the process". Also, one
of the key guys, Chris Heuer is friends with Tantek.

Regards, etc...
David

On 9/14/06, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We could, but I don't know if it's that a big of a deal.
>
> I mean, the community will dictate what gets adopted and what doesn't.
> Implementation is a much better "seal of approval" enforcement that
> going for real legal protection. IMHO.
>
> ;)
>
> Chris
>
> On 9/14/06, Don Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My advice is to get some legal protection and introduce 'seal of approval'
> > as an option so microformats can be created outside the group as well.
> > Otherwise, this will happen over and over. - Don
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
> > Messina
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:43 AM
> > To: Microformats Discuss
> > Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Social Media Group?
> >
> > I'm not involved with it, but I'm aware of it.
> >
> > This is Chris Heuer's project.
> >
> > I don't quite see how this is a microformat in the community sense though
> > the goals are similar. In some ways, it's kind of like the hWidget project
> > that was developed outside the microformats community and process, which, as
> > we've seen, has resulted in lesser adoption.
> >
> > I don't quite understand why they're working outside the microformats
> > community, except that it's not the traditional folks who work on standards
> > or webdev who are involved (i.e. PR firms).
> >
> > I do take issue with the way that they're going about building out this work
> > and calling it a microformat; in some respects, this is where, as a
> > community mark, the microformats community should make clear how it feels
> > about work of this nature being called a "microformat" that has exclusivity
> > baked into its community model:
> >
> > "Membership in the working group is subject to approval by the Social Media
> > Club advisory board"
> >
> > Their wiki is here: http://www.socialtext.net/hrelease/index.cgi
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 9/14/06, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Just found via a google alert:
> > >
> > > http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=162010
> > >
> > > > SILICON VALLEY, CA -- (MARKET WIRE) -- September 12, 2006 -- On the
> > > > heels of its official launch, Social Media Club (SMC) formed the
> > > > Media Release Working Group to develop the hRelease, a new standard
> > > > for modernizing the traditional press release for a Web-centric world.
> > > >
> > > > The Media Release Working Group will work closely with the
> > > > Microformats community, while evaluating other technologies such as
> > > > XPRL, XBRL and NewsML to establish a standard way of organizing,
> > > > tagging, distributing and sharing "official" organizational
> > > > communications among blogs and other online communities. The group
> > > > intends to present an initial draft specification on Nov. 2 at the
> > > > Society for New Communications Research Symposium in Boston.
> > >
> > > ... and so on...
> > >
> > > I know there's been discussions of this "social media release"
> > > elsewhere on the interweb, but is there anyone here who's involved in
> > > the process?
> > >
> > > -ryan
> > > --
> > > Ryan King
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
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