On 07/05/07, Keith Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ideally perhaps, but as we all know (and this is the reason this
discussion is taking place), most HTML on the web contains significant
amounts of presentational markup. Presentational elements are still in
the html 4 spec. Many tools produce presentational html.
So if you just have tutorials on 'HTML' almost all your target audience
will think "I already know html", and skip it. But if you talk about
"Semantic HTML", novices may be curious, and the more expert will
probably still be interested.


Okay, yeah, that's fair.  I think there should be an emphasis on
teaching good semantic practices - which is ultimately what we all
want - it's just how we go about that that differs in opinion. :)

I'm of the opinion that "Semantic HTML" is a perfectly fine term for
Semantic HTML, and I'm a little sceptical of the utility of a new
acronym for it. If there's a problem with people still not understanding
semantic html, either the arguments for it aren't being made clear
enough and loud enough, or maybe the arguments simply don't chime with
html authors ' perceptions of what they are doing.

Agreed (but lets not call it SHTML or POSH, or anything other than
"Semantic HTML" :) ).  There's no harm in drumming in the semantic
part as being of great importance by explicitely stating it in that
way.


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Frances Berriman
http://fberriman.com
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