Hi Oli, In short, the warnings are still relevant.
Please don't update the pages just based on a "guess" that the warnings are no longer relevant, and revert accordingly. If you can verify the changes made in microdata are consistent with hCard etc (rather than a fork), and cite the specific changes, then it makes sense to make updates. Regarding the rel-values - the latest correct definitions are still on the microformats wiki. For example the HTML5 definition of rel-tag mistakenly always applies it to the whole page which is incorrect. The microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag spec and implementations commonly apply it to parts of a page like blog posts (hAtom, Technorati, IceRocket), or contacts/events/items (hCard, hCalendar, hReview, hListing, hProduct). In general, the latest, most accurate work on microformats (both class vocabularies and rel values), is on the microformats wiki, not the HTML5 spec, and thus you should refer to the microformats wiki spec pages as canonical. Thanks, Tantek -----Original Message----- From: Oli Studholme <microformats....@boblet.net> Sender: microformats-discuss-boun...@microformats.org Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:27:52 To: <microformats-discuss@microformats.org> Reply-To: Microformats Discuss <microformats-discuss@microformats.org> Subject: [uf-discuss] re: HTML5 support Hey all, I’ve got a few questions about using microformats in HTML5: Back on 14 October 2009, Tantek made the following additions to http://microformats.org/wiki/html5 === microdata vocabularies microdata vCard - use hCard instead, taking into account the hCard FAQ and resolved+closed issues. hCard 1.0.1 (under development) is incorporating these errata. Avoid the "microdata vCard" vocabulary as it is an out-of-date fork/snapshot of hCard. microdata vEvent - use hCalendar instead, taking into account the hCalendar FAQ and resolved+closed issues. hCalendar 1.0.1 is incorporating these errata. Avoid the "microdata vEvent" vocabulary, as it is an out-of-date fork/snapshot of hCalendar's vevent root class name and applicable properties. === I’m assuming this was when Microdata vcard and vevent specs were based on hCard and hCalendar. They’re now based on the original RFCs, so I guess these warnings are no longer relevant, and have updated the page. If they are still relevant (Tantek?) please let me know the situation and I’ll update as required or roll back. Ref: * Microdata vcard: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#vcard * Microdata vevent: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html#vevent I’m also wondering if someone can explain the “encourage HTML5 to drop their vocabulary and use µF vocabulary instead” comments on the brainstorming pages linked to from: http://microformats.org/wiki/html5#Requests Again if these are no longer accurate I’m happy to update them. Under Current microformat compatibility http://microformats.org/wiki/html5#Current_microformat_compatibility only hCard and XFN are listed as compatible. I’m wondering if I should also add these specifications too: * XOXO * rel-nofollow (defined in HTML5 spec) * rel-license (defined in HTML5 spec) * rel-tag (defined in HTML5 spec) (the rel values are defined on http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/links.html ) There’s a bunch more draft specifications that look to be compatible, and there’s also a way to add extra rel values to the HTML5 spec: http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/RelExtensions Finally, what was the upshoot of this email about the “magic” in fn? http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-January/024881.html Thanks for your time peace - oli @boblet _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss _______________________________________________ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss
