Martin McEvoy wrote:
Hello Toby...

Toby A Inkster wrote:
For the purposes of illustration, say I'm writing an article entitled "Music in the Digital Age" discussing how the Internet has changed modern music. I may wish to write that:

  ...
  <span class="haudio">
    <span class="contributor">Nine Inch Nails</span>
    released their recent album
    <span class="album">Ghosts I-IV</span> under a
    <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/";
    rel="license">Creative Commons license</a>
  </span>

Now, an hAudio parser (of which there are few) will interpret this as meaning that the Nine Inch Nails' album is released under that licence.

But a general rel=license parser (of which there are many, including Yahoo! (cc) Search, Google Usage Rights Search, and absolutely any RDFa parser) will interpret this as meaning that the whole page is available under that licence, which may not be the case.

With rel-tag, the scoping issue is of less importance. If I want to tag, say, a particular hCard with a tag of "Tennis" because that person is a tennis player, it is not too unreasonable if the whole page is interpreted as being tagged "Tennis" - after all, the page does mention a tennis player, so does have an (albeit perhaps minor) topic of "Tennis".

With rel-license scoping has potentially major legal ramifications. Essentially it means that any rel=license link found needs to be manually checked to determine exactly what the licence applies to. And if one needs to manually inspect a page to determine its licence, then rel=license is adding no value.

This is true,

I would prefer to use rel="copyright"

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#type-links

because rel="licence" is primarily used for CC licences.

But even so the problem still exists that the rel-copyright still only applies to the entire document.

So *maybe* there is need for something more specific that can be related to the object maybe a rel="rights" or something else new..?

No Im wrong hAudio *can* use rel="copyright"

http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-faq#Are_rel_attributes_and_linktypes_in_general_just_document_to_document

"Are "rel" attributes, and linktypes in general, just document to document?

The vast majority of the rel values defined in HTML4 are from a document to a document. rel="stylesheet" is a bit of an exception, as it from an HTML document to a style sheet, which is more like a set of styling rules and instructions than a "document" in the classical sense.

Two more notable exceptions are rel="copyright" and rel="bookmark" which describe the relationship from the current document to (potentially) only part of a document. "

Proposal:

change rel="licence" to rel="copyright"

I would have proposed rev="copyright" but rev is depreciated in Microformats (which is a shame in this case because it looks like something hAudio needs)

Thanks

Martin McEvoy


Thanks

Martin McEvoy

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