How about an elementary simple solution with 
minimal moving parts and failure points!  A 
previous post suggested the toilet flapper valve 
concept.  About as simple as it can get and 
pretty well mature as a technology!

Now, instead of using the flush handle to 
actuate it, how about some chain and a float. 
Set the chain length so the float will actuate 
the valve when the tank is almost full. 
Elegant?  Of course a float valve would have to 
be fabricated to match the pipe size of the 
penstock, but that would not be much of a chore.

This concept requires no special sensors, 
electronics, or other sophisticated components 
and would almost never need maintenance.

Have fun,
Jay


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [microhydro] Re: Intermittant flow 
with a siphon. How?




The solution for sporadic charging is to have a 
pressure detector to
determine a full tank, then an auto valve to 
open to charge, then detecting
the pressure empty tank level to close the 
valve.

What is needed is the Banki nozzle size and the 
water usage at good water
flow -- and the low water available to see what 
type of nozzle maybe needed
to run the Banki under these conditions-- for 
possible full time usage and
not sporadic use.

Regards

Nando

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ReadFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [microhydro] Re: Intermittant flow 
with a siphon. How?


>
>
> I think that the replies to this thread are 
> getting away from the original
question.
>
> My understanding of the situation is this:
> When the water flow is adequate the Banki can 
> be run full time (no
problem), but during dry spells the water flow 
is not adequate so a scheme
was designed to store water in a 500 gallon tank 
which would provide
intermittent full flow to run the Banki.
> The question is how to make this work.
> Initial attempt with a flexible pipe running 
> into the side of the header
tank did not produce intermittent full flow, but 
constant low flow.
> I dont have an answer - it sounds a bit like 
> the solution could be along
the same lines as the flushing of a toilet. The 
key thing is to have two
distinct states - no flow and full flow. If this 
could be done with a
periodically fired flapper valve then that would 
work, but maybe there is
some way to make a syphon system work where 
there is no valve. Any ideas?
>
> Dominic Read
> Georgia, USA
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