Hi,
thanks for comments,
I think efficency is rather low. The banki is perhaps not the best 
and I am using an old car alternator. Also cable loss. I live above 
header tank.
However its enough for washing machine, computer, TV, lights etc 
using ex-milk float batteries rewired to 12v. I don't need to wind up 
the generator in winter.

Penstock is 2" internal diameter, not 4, sorry, and I think header 
tank is rather less than 500 gallons, it lasts for about half an hour.
The banki inlet can be adjusted from about a quarter of the 2" pipe 
to full width of pipe. It doesn't make a huge difference to flow or 
power. 

 I like ideas with toilet like systems, but am not sure how they 
work. I will try and find out. Brilliant suggestion! Thanks very much 
for that. It may even be possible to adapt one.

If I could only get an intermittent siphon going?? Supposed to work 
ok for natural water springs. 
The system, especially the alternator needs quite a bit of power to 
just drive the field, before I get any power out. This summer the 
water pretty much dried up. The current nozzle adjustment range is 
not enough, and I would have to keep fiddling with it. Intermittent 
flow is automatic, and I think higher efficiency. 

Duncan.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "JTDesign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> How about an elementary simple solution with 
> minimal moving parts and failure points!  A 
> previous post suggested the toilet flapper valve 
> concept.  About as simple as it can get and 
> pretty well mature as a technology!
> 
> Now, instead of using the flush handle to 
> actuate it, how about some chain and a float. 
> Set the chain length so the float will actuate 
> the valve when the tank is almost full. 
> Elegant?  Of course a float valve would have to 
> be fabricated to match the pipe size of the 
> penstock, but that would not be much of a chore.
> 
> This concept requires no special sensors, 
> electronics, or other sophisticated components 
> and would almost never need maintenance.
> 
> Have fun,
> Jay
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [microhydro] Re: Intermittant flow 
> with a siphon. How?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The solution for sporadic charging is to have a 
> pressure detector to
> determine a full tank, then an auto valve to 
> open to charge, then detecting
> the pressure empty tank level to close the 
> valve.
> 
> What is needed is the Banki nozzle size and the 
> water usage at good water
> flow -- and the low water available to see what 
> type of nozzle maybe needed
> to run the Banki under these conditions-- for 
> possible full time usage and
> not sporadic use.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Nando
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ReadFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [microhydro] Re: Intermittant flow 
> with a siphon. How?
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > I think that the replies to this thread are 
> > getting away from the original
> question.
> >
> > My understanding of the situation is this:
> > When the water flow is adequate the Banki can 
> > be run full time (no
> problem), but during dry spells the water flow 
> is not adequate so a scheme
> was designed to store water in a 500 gallon tank 
> which would provide
> intermittent full flow to run the Banki.
> > The question is how to make this work.
> > Initial attempt with a flexible pipe running 
> > into the side of the header
> tank did not produce intermittent full flow, but 
> constant low flow.
> > I dont have an answer - it sounds a bit like 
> > the solution could be along
> the same lines as the flushing of a toilet. The 
> key thing is to have two
> distinct states - no flow and full flow. If this 
> could be done with a
> periodically fired flapper valve then that would 
> work, but maybe there is
> some way to make a syphon system work where 
> there is no valve. Any ideas?
> >
> > Dominic Read
> > Georgia, USA
> >
> >
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