At 3:32 PM -0600 12/2/05, Nando wrote:

>Just because you have tried 3 times with induction motors and failed to get
>the proper results you are FOUL MOUTHING the Hundreds or even several
>thousands small hydro systems using induction motors as generators. Low
>cost, Long Lasting, Easy to implement, Easy to control and maintain.

I am sorry, I had no intention of being foul in any way.  I intended 
to be helpful.  If you know of a successful example using an 
induction generator and a transformer/rectifier, please could you 
tell me the efficiency?  and suggest where I may have gone wrong?  My 
turbines were not stalling, and I experimented plenty with the 
excitation but could never get any of them producing more than half 
what they should.  This is also typical of other systems of this sort 
that I have heard of.

I have had great success using induction motors (with  controlled AC 
output) feeding synchronising sine wave inverters, but then I have 
the extra cost of the controller.  I have had great success with high 
voltage permanent magnet machines and transformers.  Hydro power is 
very easy compared to windpower.   But induction motors and 
transformer/rectifier battery chargers are not so easy at all.

A heavy cable is often cheaper and more efficient than a transformer, 
so I thought I ought to mention that fact.  I also mentioned that he 
could use either a stream engine or a multi-jet pelton on that site 
and either would work well.  Everything I said seems to have got 
right up your nose.

I seem to have upset you, Nando and for that I am most sorry.  If I 
have upset anyone else then I am sorry for that too.  I only tried to 
be helpful by relating my own experiences, but in future I will 
probably not risk it.

best wishes, and bye bye.
-- 
Hugh





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