Hello Eric,

I think its a great idea.

Back in 1985 i installed a unit quite similar to your site. The head was only 
about 80 ft if i remember correctly but the flow rates were very close. Anyway 
we used a small 4.5 inch pelton runner directly mounted to a 1800 rpm 3 phase 
induction motor shaft wired for 220 v and two nozzles. We excited the gen with 
three small caps then rectified the output and were rewarded with  about 
140vdc. Almost perfect for charging a 120 v set of batteries. From which the 
owner ran regular light bulbs and 120vdc motors for his woodworking shop. The 
system was very simple and robust....just add water and watch it run and run 
and run. His only maintanance was bearing replacement every five years or 
so....oh and once a weld broke on the motor rotor. 

If the windy boy allows for mppt i think the system would be even better.

The one question i have is....why use a windy boy at all......just wire the 
3phase motor for single phase and pump it directly into the grid.........mark
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ericfusa 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 6:45 PM
  Subject: [microhydro] Grid-Tie Inverter with Induction Motor as Generator


  Hello,

  I am new to the group.
  I have a potential microhydro site of about:
  -100 ft head
  -100 gpm(Winter) to 30gpm(Summer).
  -I plan to use 3" or 4" pvc piping with about a 375 to 400 foot run 
  of the river. 
  -Pelton or Turgo Impact Turbine

  I had the idea to use a 3ph/4 pole 220VAC Induction Motor as a 
  Generator and connect the rectified/smoothed output directly to a 
  Grid Tie Inverter.  I noticed that SMA makes a version of their 
  popular Sunny Boy Inverters for Wind Generation using the same 
  concept.  SMA calls this version a Windy Boy.  According to SMA, this 
  inverter is designed to allow Maximum Power Point Tracking(MPPT) for 
  an induction motor driven as a generator for Wind Power applications.

  According to my calculations, the induction generator should be able 
  to output a rectified voltage of about 310V DC or higher which is 
  perfect fo the inverter.

  Questions:

  Does anyone have any experience with this type of grid-tie/net-
  metering system?  It seems quite simple and efficient to me but, I am 
  a micro-hydro newbie and may be making major estimation errors.

  I've been told that a PM Generator is more efficient than a driven 
  3ph induction motor but, I feel that the overall efficiency of the 
  system should still be quite good and simple.

  Any comments or critisism would be greatly appreciated and will 
  surely save me time, frustration, and money.

  Kind Regards,
  Eric Kunz
  Camas, WA USA








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