I agree with that and I was thinkin that myself.  However we can all
agree we've seen far stranger things.

On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:
> Odd that the antenna would only work well on 1 channel. You'd think the
> whole thing would just die out if the antenna was bad.  Unless the noise
> has just gotten that bad around here.
>
> Chris Gotstein
> Sr Network Engineer
> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
> 500 N Stephenson Ave
> Iron Mountain, MI 49801
> Phone: 906-774-4847
> Fax: 906-774-0335
> [email protected]
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> If it connects on ch 1 I doubt any water is in the connectors.
>> Antenna could be shot, though.
>>
>> On 1/22/09, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> what are your signal strengths?   What is your omni?   Something is very
>>> wrong.   Have you checked for water in cables?
>>>
>>> Chris Gotstein wrote:
>>>> As far as i'm aware, we are the only WISP in the area.  Our other
>>>> tower sites are more than 15 miles away from this tower.  Sectors
>>>> would be my next option, and probably moving to horizontal polarization.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Gotstein
>>>> Sr Network Engineer
>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave
>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847
>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>> You have heavy interference from somewhere else.   Are there Canopy's
>>>>> in the area?   Do you have other transmitters in the area?
>>>>> Basically, when you go to G you are spending enough time in the upper
>>>>> channels where the interference is that you disappear to the
>>>>> clients...   G hops to all channels equally, whereas B spend most of
>>>>> it's time in the set channel.   You may need to sectorize...
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote:
>>>>>> 1 or 2 would connect and then drop off.  I just tried a few other
>>>>>> channels and the same thing happens.  Go back to channel 1 and they
>>>>>> all connect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Gotstein
>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer
>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave
>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847
>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>> None of the 30 connected!?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I was just going to do that.  Also, when i moved over to B/G, my CCQ
>>>>>>>> went from 80 down to 10.  And when i tried changing channels, the
>>>>>>>> clients would not reconnect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein
>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer
>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave
>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847
>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If you can enable G, do.  It should help if the clients can use the
>>>>>>>>> compression.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With an omni you can pick up oodles of interference, can you do a
>>>>>>>>> scan
>>>>>>>>> late tonight?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 2.4B, but i could change it to B/G if needed.  Usage is fairly
>>>>>>>>>> light, no
>>>>>>>>>> more than 1-2mb going through the AP at one time.  Sometimes we
>>>>>>>>>> see a
>>>>>>>>>> spike to 3mb.  We are routed, VLAN'd at each tower and sometimes
>>>>>>>>>> AP.
>>>>>>>>>> This AP is using a 8db omni.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know about hidden nodes, but i guess I'll need to read up on
>>>>>>>>>> it more.
>>>>>>>>>>   How do i check for them?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein
>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer
>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave
>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847
>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4Ghz?   Running 802.11b?   30 Customers..  What kind of usage
>>>>>>>>>>> are you
>>>>>>>>>>> seeing.  One of the biggest advantages of the MT is the ability
>>>>>>>>>>> to see
>>>>>>>>>>> what customers are really pulling...   if you are running
>>>>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11b then the max you are going to see through this is
>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>> around 4mb/s and if your customers are all allowed 1.5mb/s you
>>>>>>>>>>> are going
>>>>>>>>>>> to see frequent times when they are competing with each
>>>>>>>>>>> other.   What
>>>>>>>>>>> are you seeing for hidden nodes?   What's your physical
>>>>>>>>>>> layout?  Are
>>>>>>>>>>> they off a sector or an omni?   So much that this could be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We put up a RB532 late last fall to replace a Tranzeo TR6600.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We had
>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed that on the 6600's that when you get more than 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> people on
>>>>>>>>>>>> them, they start performing very poorly.  So, the solution
>>>>>>>>>>>> that i had
>>>>>>>>>>>> been hearing was to move to a mikrotik box.  At the time, we
>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>>>>>>>> a RB532 board and have a SR2 wireless card.  Worked great for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first month, and since then it's back to slowing down and we are
>>>>>>>>>>>> starting to get complaints about slow speeds, etc.  We have
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 30
>>>>>>>>>>>> clients attaching to this one box, and they are limited to
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mb dl
>>>>>>>>>>>> and 384k up.  I thought this box would easily handle that many
>>>>>>>>>>>> connections and data, but it doesn't seem to be keeping up.  I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> running the latest firmware on the board and am running out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>> to tweak this.  Any suggestions?  Maybe need to move to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster box?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ditch MT and go with another AP vendor?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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