The only difference between 411 and 433 is 2 mpci and 2 Ethernet. Their CPUs, RAM, etc. are the same.... obviously excluding any letter variants.

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From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:18 PM
To: "Mikrotik discussions" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP

If you need the extra horsepower for whatever the reason you might as
well spend another 50 bucks.  That's my thought at least.

On 1/22/09, Steve Barnes <[email protected]> wrote:
If you are wanting to save cost's you can get along well with a 411ah.
1-ethernet 1-wireless good cpu.  I have 65 clients on one with no issue.

Steve
RC-WiFi

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:27 PM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP

433ah for sure.

PacWireless and xr2 would be my suggestion but I don't do anything in 2.4.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:

Yeah, probably best option. Suggestions on a good antenna and which RB to
go with?


Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Josh Luthman wrote:

If I were in your position I'd get a new antenna, lmr, radio and
motherboard.  All new hardware at once.  Figure out what's good safely
on the ground.

On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:

That is true.  If i got to send someone up, it is worth moving to the
XR2 radio?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Josh Luthman wrote:

I agree with that and I was thinkin that myself.  However we can all
agree we've seen far stranger things.

On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:

Odd that the antenna would only work well on 1 channel. You'd think
the
whole thing would just die out if the antenna was bad.  Unless the
noise
has just gotten that bad around here.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Josh Luthman wrote:

If it connects on ch 1 I doubt any water is in the connectors.
Antenna could be shot, though.

On 1/22/09, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:

what are your signal strengths? What is your omni? Something is
very
wrong.   Have you checked for water in cables?

Chris Gotstein wrote:

As far as i'm aware, we are the only WISP in the area.  Our other
tower sites are more than 15 miles away from this tower.  Sectors
would be my next option, and probably moving to horizontal
polarization.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Robert Andrews wrote:

You have heavy interference from somewhere else.   Are there
Canopy's
in the area?   Do you have other transmitters in the area?
Basically, when you go to G you are spending enough time in the
upper
channels where the interference is that you disappear to the
clients... G hops to all channels equally, whereas B spend most
of
it's time in the set channel.   You may need to sectorize...

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:

1 or 2 would connect and then drop off. I just tried a few other
channels and the same thing happens.  Go back to channel 1 and
they
all connect.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Josh Luthman wrote:

None of the 30 connected!?

On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:

I was just going to do that.  Also, when i moved over to B/G,
my
CCQ
went from 80 down to 10.  And when i tried changing channels,
the
clients would not reconnect.

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Josh Luthman wrote:

If you can enable G, do.  It should help if the clients can
use
the
compression.

With an omni you can pick up oodles of interference, can you
do
a
scan
late tonight?

On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote:

2.4B, but i could change it to B/G if needed.  Usage is
fairly
light, no
more than 1-2mb going through the AP at one time. Sometimes
we
see a
spike to 3mb.  We are routed, VLAN'd at each tower and
sometimes
AP.
This AP is using a 8db omni.

I know about hidden nodes, but i guess I'll need to read up
on
it more.
 How do i check for them?

Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
[email protected]

Robert Andrews wrote:

2.4Ghz?   Running 802.11b?   30 Customers..  What kind of
usage
are you
seeing.  One of the biggest advantages of the MT is the
ability
to see
what customers are really pulling...   if you are running
straight
802.11b then the max you are going to see through this is
probably
around 4mb/s and if your customers are all allowed 1.5mb/s
you
are going
to see frequent times when they are competing with each
other.   What
are you seeing for hidden nodes?   What's your physical
layout?  Are
they off a sector or an omni? So much that this could be.

Robert

Chris Gotstein wrote:

We put up a RB532 late last fall to replace a Tranzeo
TR6600.
We had
noticed that on the 6600's that when you get more than 10
people on
them, they start performing very poorly. So, the solution
that i had
been hearing was to move to a mikrotik box.  At the time,
we
purchased
a RB532 board and have a SR2 wireless card.  Worked great
for
the
first month, and since then it's back to slowing down and
we
are
starting to get complaints about slow speeds, etc. We have
about 30
clients attaching to this one box, and they are limited to
1.5mb dl
and 384k up.  I thought this box would easily handle that
many
connections and data, but it doesn't seem to be keeping up.
I'm
running the latest firmware on the board and am running out
of
ideas
to tweak this.  Any suggestions?  Maybe need to move to a
faster box?
Ditch MT and go with another AP vendor?

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