If you are wanting to save cost's you can get along well with a 411ah. 1-ethernet 1-wireless good cpu. I have 65 clients on one with no issue.
Steve RC-WiFi -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:27 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Poor Performance with RB532 AP 433ah for sure. PacWireless and xr2 would be my suggestion but I don't do anything in 2.4. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah, probably best option. Suggestions on a good antenna and which RB to > go with? > > > Chris Gotstein > Sr Network Engineer > UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > 500 N Stephenson Ave > Iron Mountain, MI 49801 > Phone: 906-774-4847 > Fax: 906-774-0335 > [email protected] > > Josh Luthman wrote: > >> If I were in your position I'd get a new antenna, lmr, radio and >> motherboard. All new hardware at once. Figure out what's good safely >> on the ground. >> >> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That is true. If i got to send someone up, it is worth moving to the >>> XR2 radio? >>> >>> Chris Gotstein >>> Sr Network Engineer >>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with that and I was thinkin that myself. However we can all >>>> agree we've seen far stranger things. >>>> >>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Odd that the antenna would only work well on 1 channel. You'd think the >>>>> whole thing would just die out if the antenna was bad. Unless the >>>>> noise >>>>> has just gotten that bad around here. >>>>> >>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If it connects on ch 1 I doubt any water is in the connectors. >>>>>> Antenna could be shot, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/22/09, Robert Andrews <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> what are your signal strengths? What is your omni? Something is >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> wrong. Have you checked for water in cables? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as i'm aware, we are the only WISP in the area. Our other >>>>>>>> tower sites are more than 15 miles away from this tower. Sectors >>>>>>>> would be my next option, and probably moving to horizontal >>>>>>>> polarization. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have heavy interference from somewhere else. Are there >>>>>>>>> Canopy's >>>>>>>>> in the area? Do you have other transmitters in the area? >>>>>>>>> Basically, when you go to G you are spending enough time in the >>>>>>>>> upper >>>>>>>>> channels where the interference is that you disappear to the >>>>>>>>> clients... G hops to all channels equally, whereas B spend most >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> it's time in the set channel. You may need to sectorize... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1 or 2 would connect and then drop off. I just tried a few other >>>>>>>>>> channels and the same thing happens. Go back to channel 1 and >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> all connect. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> None of the 30 connected!? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was just going to do that. Also, when i moved over to B/G, my >>>>>>>>>>>> CCQ >>>>>>>>>>>> went from 80 down to 10. And when i tried changing channels, >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> clients would not reconnect. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can enable G, do. It should help if the clients can use >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> compression. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> With an omni you can pick up oodles of interference, can you do >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> scan >>>>>>>>>>>>> late tonight? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/22/09, Chris Gotstein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4B, but i could change it to B/G if needed. Usage is fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> light, no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 1-2mb going through the AP at one time. Sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> see a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spike to 3mb. We are routed, VLAN'd at each tower and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AP. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This AP is using a 8db omni. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know about hidden nodes, but i guess I'll need to read up on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it more. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do i check for them? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4Ghz? Running 802.11b? 30 Customers.. What kind of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing. One of the biggest advantages of the MT is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what customers are really pulling... if you are running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11b then the max you are going to see through this is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around 4mb/s and if your customers are all allowed 1.5mb/s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see frequent times when they are competing with each >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are you seeing for hidden nodes? What's your physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout? Are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they off a sector or an omni? So much that this could be. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We put up a RB532 late last fall to replace a Tranzeo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TR6600. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noticed that on the 6600's that when you get more than 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, they start performing very poorly. So, the solution >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that i had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been hearing was to move to a mikrotik box. At the time, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purchased >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a RB532 board and have a SR2 wireless card. Worked great >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first month, and since then it's back to slowing down and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starting to get complaints about slow speeds, etc. We have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clients attaching to this one box, and they are limited to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5mb dl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 384k up. I thought this box would easily handle that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections and data, but it doesn't seem to be keeping up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running the latest firmware on the board and am running out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tweak this. Any suggestions? Maybe need to move to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster box? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ditch MT and go with another AP vendor? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik RouterOS >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to >>>>>>>>> Mikrotik >>>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Mikrotik mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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