Brilliant, as usual my dear. And if that truly was a proposition, then I 
accept, though I fear our female significant others will have a hard time of 
it. I'd say "I wish I could quit you", but I find that your tightly ordered 
chaos completes my tightly chaotic order.
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Gabber dabber doo Slip!  In the postmodern era, strict truth-telling
is seen as a sign of incompleteness, a character defect, linguistic
anorexia.  Bare truth-telling is not all we need, not the best we can
do - but this said, we seem not to understand when we must tell the
truth.  Henry James wrote a short story about this called "The Liar".
In recent years I have seen a collapse in sincerity and effort in
trying to understand evidence.  Everything has become show, style and
impression management - hence I worry about Obama and hope to hell he
ain't another Blair.  All sorts of moral panics ensue because we can't
strip things to the facts, with all kinds of prejudice pretending it
is rational.  Yet it's not about plodding, grey reasoning.  If I
finish here by asking Chris if he was proposing, most of us will just
giggle or yawn  Yet many people are so dumb that they are actually
likely to fabricate the colour of their lives around some
interpretation of this as being about Chris and my gayness!  These are
the dorks who believe fantastic tales of ritual abuse told by kids and
who routinely fail to notice how hard we need to work to get real
evidence.  How anyone can get whipped up about gay marriage I just
don't know, but you guys over there had Palin running for vp.  I'm
scared that most people can't even see how the represent the idiocy of
standard behavioural texts, and are clueless about how to go about
finding out the truth about anything.

On 27 Dec, 03:42, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> I believe what Neil is trying to say is that most of our recent occasions of 
> mass hysteria are inexplicable group exhibitions of utter irrationality. The 
> issue of gay marriage is one such example.
>
>
>
> [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" 
> <[email protected]>Date:Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:24:32 -0800 
> (PST)Local:Sat 27 Dec 2008 02:24Subject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Were are we afraid 
> of?
>
> I think some elaboration would be in order, for sure in "this is where
> we could learn not to be afraid".
> Are you going gabby on us?
>
> On Dec 26, 7:12 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The lack of sensible occasions of rationality makes me afraid, as this
> > is where we could learn not to be afraid.
>
> > On 26 Dec, 23:15, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I fear nothing, not even death. However, the word fear has many
> > > levels. I may "fear" that humanity with all its flaws may never
> > > understand the true meaning of life and therefore may ultimately
> > > destroy that which supports humanity's existence. Of course that fear
> > > is not the same as the fear of someone coming into your house and
> > > killing you and your family or the fear that some maniac may go on a
> > > shooting rampage at a mall or just random highway attack, killing you
> > > or those you love. Some fear the loss of financial security or they
> > > fear the loss of good health and the acquisition of some horrible
> > > disease.  Fear to me is a frame of mind, a sense of being out of touch
> > > with future events while concurrently witnessing the events that are
> > > affecting others, which in essence have the potential to affect you
> > > tomorrow.
> > > I do have apprehensions which are different from fear. I may not feel
> > > comfortable with the exchange of information on the Internet, but that
> > > is not a fear but merely a precaution.
>
> > > On Dec 26, 3:30 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On this forum I read a lot about fear, fear of the unknown. Or fear to
> > > > love other people. Out of these fears we usually try to confince
> > > > ourselfs of our beliefs by telling our prespectives. Even when i write
> > > > this I ask myself why do i tell this?
> > > > So to cut the crap i want to ask all of you. What are we (or YOU)
> > > > afraid of?
>
> > > > Happy New year,
> > > > Matthijs- Hide quoted text -
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> >
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