Rational thought is often the vehicle by which we conquer our fears, and the
steady dissolution of rational throught through out our society will eventually
break down these fear based policies.
2 years ago, Tiana convinced me to jump out of an airplane. I've long harbored
an intense (and arguably NOT irrational) fear of heights, but being both
daredevil and ballerina, she wanted the freedom to pirouette in space. She
graciously offered that I could stay on the ground, which as the typical male,
guaranteed that 30 minutes later, I was strapped tandem style to a grizzled
instructor bearing a strong resemblance to Yoda, sitting in a plane so rickety
on its upward climb that I was quite glad we had parachutes.
My outward veneer of calm was due solely to two things: my mastery of
prathnayama breathing for anxiety, and my rational understanding that my
instructor was well trained, and didn't want to die either.
We learn to not be afraid by taking action in spite of our fear. Rational
thought is one channel which allows us to do so. My fall from 13,500 feet was
breathtaking, and not fatal, as far as I can tell.
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And I'll bet you both have a cute angina! lol
Really though I was referring to the "learning" not to be afraid,
consequential of sensible occasions of rationality. Non fear through
rational examination? What is rationality tagged as sensible and what
effects this determination? We can dismiss fear based on a pre-
determined premise that results in a designed rationality but who sets
the premise on which we base our rationality? What is rational to one
may not be rational to another and therefore recent occasions of mass
hysteria may in fact be rational and not inexplicable exhibitions. It
would be easy to overcome fear when there is uniformity in
comprehension, which is clearly not the case. So perhaps there is fear
justification in a contrapositive sense. Without a specific fear
reference it could not be determined whether it was rational or not,
as in fears based on non secular traditions, phobias, and paranoiac
delusions. Sensible occasions of rationality could only occur within
the confines of a like minded group setting. I guess a KKK meeting
could be considered a sensible occasion of rationality, to them of
course.
On Dec 26, 11:38 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brilliant, as usual my dear. And if that truly was a proposition, then I
> accept, though I fear our female significant others will have a hard time of
> it. I'd say "I wish I could quit you", but I find that your tightly ordered
> chaos completes my tightly chaotic order.
>
>
>
> [ Attached Message ]From:archytas <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\""
> <[email protected]>Date:Fri, 26 Dec 2008 21:28:50 -0800
> (PST)Local:Fri, Dec 26 2008 11:28 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Were are we
> afraid of?
>
> Gabber dabber doo Slip! In the postmodern era, strict truth-telling
> is seen as a sign of incompleteness, a character defect, linguistic
> anorexia. Bare truth-telling is not all we need, not the best we can
> do - but this said, we seem not to understand when we must tell the
> truth. Henry James wrote a short story about this called "The Liar".
> In recent years I have seen a collapse in sincerity and effort in
> trying to understand evidence. Everything has become show, style and
> impression management - hence I worry about Obama and hope to hell he
> ain't another Blair. All sorts of moral panics ensue because we can't
> strip things to the facts, with all kinds of prejudice pretending it
> is rational. Yet it's not about plodding, grey reasoning. If I
> finish here by asking Chris if he was proposing, most of us will just
> giggle or yawn Yet many people are so dumb that they are actually
> likely to fabricate the colour of their lives around some
> interpretation of this as being about Chris and my gayness! These are
> the dorks who believe fantastic tales of ritual abuse told by kids and
> who routinely fail to notice how hard we need to work to get real
> evidence. How anyone can get whipped up about gay marriage I just
> don't know, but you guys over there had Palin running for vp. I'm
> scared that most people can't even see how the represent the idiocy of
> standard behavioural texts, and are clueless about how to go about
> finding out the truth about anything.
>
> On 27 Dec, 03:42, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I believe what Neil is trying to say is that most of our recent occasions
> > of mass hysteria are inexplicable group exhibitions of utter irrationality.
> > The issue of gay marriage is one such example.
>
> > [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\""
> > <[email protected]>Date:Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:24:32 -0800
> > (PST)Local:Sat 27 Dec 2008 02:24Subject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Were are we afraid
> > of?
>
> > I think some elaboration would be in order, for sure in "this is where
> > we could learn not to be afraid".
> > Are you going gabby on us?
>
> > On Dec 26, 7:12 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The lack of sensible occasions of rationality makes me afraid, as this
> > > is where we could learn not to be afraid.
>
> > > On 26 Dec, 23:15, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I fear nothing, not even death. However, the word fear has many
> > > > levels. I may "fear" that humanity with all its flaws may never
> > > > understand the true meaning of life and therefore may ultimately
> > > > destroy that which supports humanity's existence. Of course that fear
> > > > is not the same as the fear of someone coming into your house and
> > > > killing you and your family or the fear that some maniac may go on a
> > > > shooting rampage at a mall or just random highway attack, killing you
> > > > or those you love. Some fear the loss of financial security or they
> > > > fear the loss of good health and the acquisition of some horrible
> > > > disease. Fear to me is a frame of mind, a sense of being out of touch
> > > > with future events while concurrently witnessing the events that are
> > > > affecting others, which in essence have the potential to affect you
> > > > tomorrow.
> > > > I do have apprehensions which are different from fear. I may not feel
> > > > comfortable with the exchange of information on the Internet, but that
> > > > is not a fear but merely a precaution.
>
> > > > On Dec 26, 3:30 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On this forum I read a lot about fear, fear of the unknown. Or fear to
> > > > > love other people. Out of these fears we usually try to confince
> > > > > ourselfs of our beliefs by telling our prespectives. Even when i write
> > > > > this I ask myself why do i tell this?
> > > > > So to cut the crap i want to ask all of you. What are we (or YOU)
> > > > > afraid of?
>
> > > > > Happy New year,
> > > > > Matthijs- Hide quoted text -
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