Truth is the world will never stand up in unison to condone or condemn any issue. We can recognize difference with a degree of tolerance, without total acceptance and reserve the right to express disagreement. We all should have a right to our space on a personal and collective level, have the right to maintain that space in the order which is acceptable and desirable for the personal and collective. Whatever the group issue, while expecting recognition should also understand, respect and comply in deference to opposing group(s). Surely it is easier said than accomplished but on this is the basis of laws designed for the good of the whole. Things change only when the collective attitude shifts but still remains significant to that group and not to the whole. Obama hopefully will hold course and all we can do is hope for the best because it really can't get much worse, though I think it will before it gets better.
On Dec 26, 11:28 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Gabber dabber doo Slip! In the postmodern era, strict truth-telling > is seen as a sign of incompleteness, a character defect, linguistic > anorexia. Bare truth-telling is not all we need, not the best we can > do - but this said, we seem not to understand when we must tell the > truth. Henry James wrote a short story about this called "The Liar". > In recent years I have seen a collapse in sincerity and effort in > trying to understand evidence. Everything has become show, style and > impression management - hence I worry about Obama and hope to hell he > ain't another Blair. All sorts of moral panics ensue because we can't > strip things to the facts, with all kinds of prejudice pretending it > is rational. Yet it's not about plodding, grey reasoning. If I > finish here by asking Chris if he was proposing, most of us will just > giggle or yawn Yet many people are so dumb that they are actually > likely to fabricate the colour of their lives around some > interpretation of this as being about Chris and my gayness! These are > the dorks who believe fantastic tales of ritual abuse told by kids and > who routinely fail to notice how hard we need to work to get real > evidence. How anyone can get whipped up about gay marriage I just > don't know, but you guys over there had Palin running for vp. I'm > scared that most people can't even see how the represent the idiocy of > standard behavioural texts, and are clueless about how to go about > finding out the truth about anything. > > On 27 Dec, 03:42, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I believe what Neil is trying to say is that most of our recent occasions > > of mass hysteria are inexplicable group exhibitions of utter irrationality. > > The issue of gay marriage is one such example. > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > <[email protected]>Date:Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:24:32 -0800 > > (PST)Local:Sat 27 Dec 2008 02:24Subject:[Mind's Eye] Re: Were are we afraid > > of? > > > I think some elaboration would be in order, for sure in "this is where > > we could learn not to be afraid". > > Are you going gabby on us? > > > On Dec 26, 7:12 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The lack of sensible occasions of rationality makes me afraid, as this > > > is where we could learn not to be afraid. > > > > On 26 Dec, 23:15, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I fear nothing, not even death. However, the word fear has many > > > > levels. I may "fear" that humanity with all its flaws may never > > > > understand the true meaning of life and therefore may ultimately > > > > destroy that which supports humanity's existence. Of course that fear > > > > is not the same as the fear of someone coming into your house and > > > > killing you and your family or the fear that some maniac may go on a > > > > shooting rampage at a mall or just random highway attack, killing you > > > > or those you love. Some fear the loss of financial security or they > > > > fear the loss of good health and the acquisition of some horrible > > > > disease. Fear to me is a frame of mind, a sense of being out of touch > > > > with future events while concurrently witnessing the events that are > > > > affecting others, which in essence have the potential to affect you > > > > tomorrow. > > > > I do have apprehensions which are different from fear. I may not feel > > > > comfortable with the exchange of information on the Internet, but that > > > > is not a fear but merely a precaution. > > > > > On Dec 26, 3:30 pm, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On this forum I read a lot about fear, fear of the unknown. Or fear to > > > > > love other people. Out of these fears we usually try to confince > > > > > ourselfs of our beliefs by telling our prespectives. Even when i write > > > > > this I ask myself why do i tell this? > > > > > So to cut the crap i want to ask all of you. What are we (or YOU) > > > > > afraid of? > > > > > > Happy New year, > > > > > Matthijs- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
