Perhaps reading the words of another who is born again would help here. Strangely, his conclusion is similar to fran’s!
http://falsani.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-2004-god-factor-interview.html On Dec 27, 5:27 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > On 23 Dez., 05:34, "Aaron Eel (Ehrin)" <[email protected]> wrote: > And He forgives you of all of your > > > transgressions... most of them forgotten... and He breathes a new life > > into you and washes the stains from your heart, and from that moment > > on you are a new creature. Sinless, unblemished and whole. Bought and > > paid for BY HIM. From the OUTSIDE in. Not from the inside out. > > If you understand this, then you are the people I want to hear from. > > All of you others are as lost as Amelia Earhart. And quite frankly, > > just as damned. > > Aaron, you haven't yet replied to the offer of dialogue I made to you > on December 23rd., but perhaps you still will, although from your > latest post you seem to consider me to be as lost and damned as Amelia > Earhart. In this context, I feel I must remark that I have always > found the propensity of many so-called born-again Christians to > routinely consign all those who are not of their opinion to damnation > (whatever that entails) to be presumptious, insulting and, indeed, in > contradiction to the words of the one they regard as their "saviour" > who admonished them to judge not lest they be judged. > > It is, of course, a fine thing to be forgiven - particularly if one is > forgiven by those one may have hurt or offended. However, I do not > feel to be in need of any kind of forgiveness from God, since - if he > does exist - I cannot seen how I have offended him. Indeed, for many, > the most compelling need they have is for self-forgiveness and self- > acceptance, a power which we all contain within ourselves and one > which is an important way-station in our growth as mature humans. > > The idea of an all-loving God, who creates all human beings in love, > then damns them all to eternal hell because they are > imperfect/"sinners" only to offer a select few "redemption" on the > basis of being "born-again" through faith (itself a gift selectively > solely granted by the same God) in his crucified incarnate son is one > which I find profoundly flawed, disturbing and negative. As a species > we can do much better. Some of this involves us taking responsibility > for our own lives, the messes we cause and the wonders we produce. > > Francis --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
