On 31 Dec, 12:28, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah I'm with you Pat.
>
> I was Christaned as a baby, and that really has had nil effect on
> mylife. Child abuse, of course not.

I was offended earlier in my life (in that, if I'd have been offered
the choice, I probably would have NOT had it done.  And, that would
have been in those years when I was rebelling against God [and/or the
concept of God] and felt more animosity towards anything Christian).
Now, mostly because of my philosophy, I just gladly accept it as one
of those things that happened that led me to where I am now.

>
> On 31 Dec, 11:31, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On 30 Dec, 17:02, "willy minnen" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > This is not a joke. I was baptised cathaholic some days after my birth. At
> > > the age of 17/18 I asked the bishop of Antwerp to cancel me from his
> > > fan-list. I feared to receive sacraments under force. This request is 
> > > still
> > > pending 50 years later. Child baptism is another form of child-abuse and
> > > ought to be forbidden.
> > > Happy New Year everybody,
> > > Willy (free from religion)
>
> >   I always avoided taking communion (Eucharist) because, even at the
> > age of 7, I saw it as a kind of symbolic cannabalism and vampirism
> > that I just didn't want to be a part of.  I could see no value in
> > pretending to eat a God.  And, to this day, I still see no value in
> > it.  Although I, too, was baptised as a baby, I don't hold a grudge, I
> > just don't recognise that it did anything other than act as an excuse
> > for my parents to have a party. ;-)
>
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Lonlaz
> > >   To: "Minds Eye"
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:51 PM
> > >   Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Has anyone else met Christ?
>
> > >   Quote:
>
> > >   "I met Jesus, the Christ in 1988. I was raised in church, decided I
> > >   hated it, turned to drugs & became atheistic & even dabbled in
> > >   satanism. I was challenged by a Christian to "ask God to reveal
> > >   Himself to you" and so I asked "God" to do just that. I went to bed,
> > >   nothing happened, I was actually expecting an earthquake or
> > >   lightning...but...nothing happened so I went to bed that night still
> > >   an atheist / drug addict. "
>
> > >   Any good conversion story requires one at one time either dabbling in
> > >   occult forces/being a satanist/being an athiest.  I question that a
> > >   person actually gave it a good try being an Athiest, if they were a
> > >   Satanist as well.  So, I needed some more details.
>
> > >   Ricky, though, I'm glad you found something to help keep you away from
> > >   the drugs.  Though Christianity works for you, it may not be best for
> > >   everyone else.
>
> > >   In a converse story, I once asked God to reveal Satan to me, that was
> > >   a trying night. :)
>
> > >   On Dec 30, 7:35 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >   > On 29 Dec, 15:00, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > >   > > Ricky,
>
> > >   > > I'd like to hear more about your expirience with Satanism, can you
> > >   > > expound on that?
>
> > >   > Where did he say he had any experience with Satanism?- Hide quoted 
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