Neil, introspection IS in continuation of observation. For instance : One may observe what one is, others are, all these things that affect us, how they are exist and relate ... when one is awake, oneself in the world and the world in oneself. Then, one may observe oneself while one is dreaming, the ego - world within oneself and the dreamer in whom the dream is. Continued ... to observation of what one is in deep sleep state ( admittedly a difficult act ) when one is definitely absent in one's own awareness but not really, since one returns to being the same oneself in our own awareness. And, finally, all those observations put together ... the beyond, the whole that exceeds all its components.
Then, the question : What am I in truth, Who am I, What am I ? ? ? The Whole, or one of the endless diversity in the components, or this relationship one is not even aware of in our very own deep sleep existence, or the dreamer now living, now witnessing one's own dream, or ... ... ? Or, is it that one is All, or Nothing ? Or ... ? It's all based on observation, facts, immediate experiece. On Jan 3, 1:30 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > It seems autistic people have little idea of the deceptive > capabilities of others well into their teens. This gives them a > rather false notion in applying self-knowledge to others. I think > Robert has a good point in that many seem very short of proper facts > about the world - introspection needs to be a compliment to > observation and not re-inventing the wheel. > > On 3 Jan, 04:36, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well I am with Lee as far as the disagreement. Aside from that I would > > have to add that the not knowing who you are and what you are about, > > leaves you in the midst of total confusion. If your self image is that > > of a warrior you might kill the first person you meet or if your self > > image was that of a pacifist you might find peace in knowing you can > > cajole your earth mate into a more loving situation. > > > When you Robert use the term "you" I think you are referring more to > > yourself than others. However, before we can enter your proposed > > world of imagination, lets explore what you are calling "Healthy > > Ego". > > > What exactly in your terms is a healthy ego? > > > On Dec 30 2008, 11:53 pm, "Robert Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I seem to be reading more and more about self and self image.How about > > > looking outwards. > > > There is nothing wrong with a healthy ego, but imagine a world where you > > > are > > > the only person alive, alone in the world. Perhaps the value of > > > interaction > > > would then become more appreciated. > > > You don't have to search too deeply to understand your own self, your own > > > drives , desires, strengths and weaknesses. > > > You will be a more contented being if you spend more time considering the > > > strengths, weaknesses, drives and desires of those around you, and you > > > don't > > > need superstition based religions to do that! > > > > Robert.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
