There is nothing wrong with a healthy ego, but imagine a world where
you are
the only person alive, alone in the world. Perhaps the value of
interaction
would then become more appreciated. <rw

This is obvious, as we are social creatures in constant states of
interaction with our environment.


You don't have to search too deeply to understand your own self, your
own
drives , desires, strengths and weaknesses.<rw

I don't see how the process of understanding the individual self
changes based on seclusion.


You will be a more contented being if you spend more time considering
the
strengths, weaknesses, drives and desires of those around you, <rw

For sure but I'm already living on those lines and I'm sure others are
as well. It is not a new concept to consider others.

and you don't need superstition based religions to do that! <rw

Well the truth is we really don't need anything to serve as the
impetus for consideration. Caring is innate in humanity and not based
on religion.

Robert has a good point in that many seem very short of proper facts
about the world - introspection needs to be a compliment to
observation and not re-inventing the wheel. <archy

This is true, looking inward and looking outward go together, and many
do fall short of recognizing the condition of their peers. As I
brought up in another thread, making people around me happy makes my
life better. To do this I must understand them first, however as Lee
pointed out, I can't accomplish that without understanding myself,
Therefore, while introspection and observation are complimentary,
there is a order in that one precedes the other.  Observation is not
possible without introspection, and of course that means introspection
that is compatible with the observation without which there is
conflict. I don't think it is as simple as Roberts illusory image of
Utopia.

On Jan 3, 2:30 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> It seems autistic people have little idea of the deceptive
> capabilities of others well into their teens.  This gives them a
> rather false notion in applying self-knowledge to others.  I think
> Robert has a good point in that many seem very short of proper facts
> about the world - introspection needs to be a compliment to
> observation and not re-inventing the wheel.
>
> On 3 Jan, 04:36, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Well I am with Lee as far as the disagreement. Aside from that I would
> > have to add that the not knowing who you are and what you are about,
> > leaves you in the midst of total confusion. If your self image is that
> > of a warrior you might kill the first person you meet or if your self
> > image was that of a pacifist you might find peace in knowing you can
> > cajole your earth mate into a more loving situation.
>
> > When you Robert use the term "you" I think you are referring more to
> > yourself than others.  However, before we can enter your proposed
> > world of imagination, lets explore what you are calling "Healthy
> > Ego".
>
> > What exactly in your terms is a healthy ego?
>
> > On Dec 30 2008, 11:53 pm, "Robert Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I seem to be reading more and more about self and self image.How about
> > > looking outwards.
> > > There is nothing wrong with a healthy ego, but imagine a world where you 
> > > are
> > > the only person alive, alone in the world. Perhaps the value of 
> > > interaction
> > > would then become more appreciated.
> > > You don't have to search too deeply to understand your own self, your own
> > > drives , desires, strengths and weaknesses.
> > > You will be a more contented being if you spend more time considering the
> > > strengths, weaknesses, drives and desires of those around you, and you 
> > > don't
> > > need superstition based religions to do that!
>
> > > Robert.
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