The observation in this issue correlates with social interaction and engagement of the observed, providing the consistency of compatibility is intact. I'm not sure of the scientific aspect of observation. Violence and general misunderstanding ensues if there is a breakdown of compatible introspect and observation, as in marital discord. Life seems easy when you have groups of like minds congregating but this also poses a great danger for those who contradict the group image. It appears we have a situation in Gaza based upon opposing introspection and observation. It seems more likely that this trend will continue rather than lead to global accord. It's been this way since the beginning of time. Differing circumstances of observation?
On Jan 3, 7:40 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > Notes on the observation states of observers are legion and key in > much science. There has been a move to reliableism of late - matching > up theorising to many different circumstances of observation. I still > meet people who confuse proper objectivity with somekind of cold, > dispassionate stance and even nodding donkey unthought. > > On 3 Jan, 14:19, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There is nothing wrong with a healthy ego, but imagine a world where > > you are > > the only person alive, alone in the world. Perhaps the value of > > interaction > > would then become more appreciated. <rw > > > This is obvious, as we are social creatures in constant states of > > interaction with our environment. > > > You don't have to search too deeply to understand your own self, your > > own > > drives , desires, strengths and weaknesses.<rw > > > I don't see how the process of understanding the individual self > > changes based on seclusion. > > > You will be a more contented being if you spend more time considering > > the > > strengths, weaknesses, drives and desires of those around you, <rw > > > For sure but I'm already living on those lines and I'm sure others are > > as well. It is not a new concept to consider others. > > > and you don't need superstition based religions to do that! <rw > > > Well the truth is we really don't need anything to serve as the > > impetus for consideration. Caring is innate in humanity and not based > > on religion. > > > Robert has a good point in that many seem very short of proper facts > > about the world - introspection needs to be a compliment to > > observation and not re-inventing the wheel. <archy > > > This is true, looking inward and looking outward go together, and many > > do fall short of recognizing the condition of their peers. As I > > brought up in another thread, making people around me happy makes my > > life better. To do this I must understand them first, however as Lee > > pointed out, I can't accomplish that without understanding myself, > > Therefore, while introspection and observation are complimentary, > > there is a order in that one precedes the other. Observation is not > > possible without introspection, and of course that means introspection > > that is compatible with the observation without which there is > > conflict. I don't think it is as simple as Roberts illusory image of > > Utopia. > > > On Jan 3, 2:30 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It seems autistic people have little idea of the deceptive > > > capabilities of others well into their teens. This gives them a > > > rather false notion in applying self-knowledge to others. I think > > > Robert has a good point in that many seem very short of proper facts > > > about the world - introspection needs to be a compliment to > > > observation and not re-inventing the wheel. > > > > On 3 Jan, 04:36, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well I am with Lee as far as the disagreement. Aside from that I would > > > > have to add that the not knowing who you are and what you are about, > > > > leaves you in the midst of total confusion. If your self image is that > > > > of a warrior you might kill the first person you meet or if your self > > > > image was that of a pacifist you might find peace in knowing you can > > > > cajole your earth mate into a more loving situation. > > > > > When you Robert use the term "you" I think you are referring more to > > > > yourself than others. However, before we can enter your proposed > > > > world of imagination, lets explore what you are calling "Healthy > > > > Ego". > > > > > What exactly in your terms is a healthy ego? > > > > > On Dec 30 2008, 11:53 pm, "Robert Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I seem to be reading more and more about self and self image.How about > > > > > looking outwards. > > > > > There is nothing wrong with a healthy ego, but imagine a world where > > > > > you are > > > > > the only person alive, alone in the world. Perhaps the value of > > > > > interaction > > > > > would then become more appreciated. > > > > > You don't have to search too deeply to understand your own self, your > > > > > own > > > > > drives , desires, strengths and weaknesses. > > > > > You will be a more contented being if you spend more time considering > > > > > the > > > > > strengths, weaknesses, drives and desires of those around you, and > > > > > you don't > > > > > need superstition based religions to do that! > > > > > > Robert.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
