On 10 Jan, 12:32, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Probably" leaves an opening for possibility, otherwise they would
> have simply stated "There is no God". Does the slogan infer that
> believing in God causes one to worry? This is a bit troublesome, as
> most believers, in knowing God, abandon all worry in light of faith.
Maybe Christians, who, in taking up their faith, relinquish all
responsibility for their actions to a pre-sacrificed God permitting
them their sins to be annulled, but for Jews and Moslems (and pretty
much everyone else!), who KEEP and MAINTAIN their full responsibility--
THEY worry.
> We can't simply assume that people are not enjoying their lives based
> on the existence or non existence of God. Are Atheists tormented by
> the "probability" of God to the point of misery and therefore cancel
> all notions of God in order to alleviate the torment?
LOL!! I wouldn't expect most, but, odds are that some do. That's one
of the beautiful things about 6 billion people.
> The Alpha Course advertisement at.......http://www.alphausa.org/
> .......clearly asks "Is there more to life than this?" I don't see
> the grounds on which Atheists can complain. Their is a greater
> assumption of deity over non deity in the world and Atheists have no
> more proof of non deity than Christians have of deity. Non belief is
> as viable as belief, therefore Christians don't really have any right
> to complain or have the ads removed. I highly doubt they will
> accomplish much.
Agreed. Both sides stand on equal ground when it comes to
proof. Yet both sides are adamant that their position is reasonable.
And, until there is proof, we can muse about it in any way we like.
All I'd have to say about the original slogan is, 'what likelihoods
did they take into account to say "probably"?' With exactly no proof,
the statement 'probably' is as good as 'dgfrkgx', i.e., fairly
meaningless. Certainly nothing to complain about, anyway.
>
> On Jan 9, 11:07 am, "Ian Pollard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Two questions I've been mulling over...
>
> > 1. The recent atheist bus campaign in London, saw buses with the slogan
> > "There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life." Members
> > of Christian Voice -- in attempt to have the adverts removed -- have
> > complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about the accuracy of this
> > slogan. Would it be correct for atheists to now complain about the accuracy
> > of the commercial activities of Christian churches (such as the Alpha
> > Course)? Or, in reality, are said atheists far too busy arguing on Internet
> > forums about whether the slogan is in fact *agnostic* and what the most
> > accurate meaning of the word "probably" is?
>
> > 2. Should John Travolta be brought to trial for child neglect following the
> > death of his son? Reports are claiming that his son, who suffered from
> > autism, was denied prescription drugs and psychiatric counselling for his
> > illness (that could have helped control his seizures) because of his
> > father's Scientology beliefs.
>
> > Happy New Year!
>
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