Hey Willy,

Well that's one opinion I guess, I find it on the whole very
generalising and rather telling too.  what led you to belive that we
are brainwashed with gods by the clericals? Also what let you to
belive their aims as stated by you?  And fear of God, how did you come
to that conclusion?



On 10 Jan, 16:56, "willy minnen" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I am not. Replacing an uncomprihensible god by your own consciousness
> brought at least the real peace to me. We are just brainwashed with gods by
> the clericals to hold power on us. If you believe in gods or not is minor to
> the fear for gods. That's the way clericals hold power on us.
> Love and peace.
> Willy.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Slip Disc
>   To: "Minds Eye"
>   Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:32 PM
>   Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: Two questions
>
>   "Probably"  leaves an opening for possibility, otherwise they would
>   have simply stated "There is no God".  Does the slogan infer that
>   believing in God causes one to worry?  This is a bit troublesome, as
>   most believers, in knowing God, abandon all worry in light of faith.
>   We can't simply assume that people are not enjoying their lives based
>   on the existence or non existence of God.  Are Atheists tormented by
>   the "probability" of God to the point of misery and therefore cancel
>   all notions of God in order to alleviate the torment?
>   The Alpha Course advertisement at.......http://www.alphausa.org/
>   .......clearly asks "Is there more to life than this?"  I don't see
>   the grounds on which Atheists can complain.  Their is a greater
>   assumption of deity over non deity in the world and Atheists have no
>   more proof of non deity than Christians have of deity.  Non belief is
>   as viable as belief, therefore Christians don't really have any right
>   to complain or have the ads removed. I highly doubt they will
>   accomplish much.
>
>   On Jan 9, 11:07 am, "Ian Pollard" <[email protected]> wrote:
>   > Two questions I've been mulling over...
>
>   > 1. The recent atheist bus campaign in London, saw buses with the slogan
>   > "There is probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."
> Members
>   > of Christian Voice -- in attempt to have the adverts removed -- have
>   > complained to the Advertising Standards Authority about the accuracy of
> this
>   > slogan. Would it be correct for atheists to now complain about the
> accuracy
>   > of the commercial activities of Christian churches (such as the Alpha
>   > Course)? Or, in reality, are said atheists far too busy arguing on
> Internet
>   > forums about whether the slogan is in fact *agnostic* and what the most
>   > accurate meaning of the word "probably" is?
>
>   > 2. Should John Travolta be brought to trial for child neglect following
> the
>   > death of his son? Reports are claiming that his son, who suffered from
>   > autism, was denied prescription drugs and psychiatric counselling for
> his
>   > illness (that could have helped control his seizures) because of his
>   > father's Scientology beliefs.
>
>   > Happy New Year!
>
>   > Ian- Hide quoted text -
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