You're right of course.  Let's talk about the lobster.

On Jan 13, 10:27 am, "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> *SOUND THE ALARMS! SOUND THE ALARMS! A FORUM HAND GRENADE HAS BEEN TOSSED!*
> Grenade model identified as "Israeli/Palestinian Conflict"
>
> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grenade.htm
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Molly Brogan <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure which came first, the Dawkins or the Graves.  But it is a
> > concise explanation of why people often feel the need to "act from the
> > heart," and these actions are often less of an individual moral
> > conviction and more of a need to belong to a group that shares a moral
> > conviction.  The green memers require a sense of belonging, and the
> > mean green memers require a sense of belonging and a common cause that
> > is directly opposed to another group or principle.  I think we only
> > need to look at the insane chaos happening on the Gaza strip to see
> > how this righteous cause syndrome can be carried to the extreme and
> > become highly destructive.  It is much easier to discuss in terms of
> > one poor lobster who might have given his life so that some woman who
> > belongs to an animal rights group can feel good about it.
>
> > On Jan 13, 9:14 am, "Ian Pollard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 2009/1/11 Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
>
> > > > The Spiral Dynamics (http://www.spiraldynamics.org/Graves/colors.htm
> > > > ) is a pretty good model that describes human behavior in terms of
> > > > levels (memes) of development and ability to move between.
>
> > > I had no idea Dawkins' original idea had been taken so far.
>
> > > Ian
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