All the worlds a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;

People's perceptions can be manipulated.  Posture, eye-contact and a
relaxed but poised demeanor exudes power; eyes down, shuffling gate
and nervous or hesitant demeanor exudes the opposite.  As stated
before, clothes can make the man.  Some people look at your shoes and
base their entire opinion on the quality, style and condition of your
foot ware.  I kid you not.

One important aspect is how others are seen to respect the individual.
 It rubs off subconsciously I suppose.

dj



On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Lonlaz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I dunno, Slip, I can't rule out some sort of aetheric transmission,
> but there is a lot a person can glean from seeing a person's face/
> clothes/walk.  I have spent some time in the martial arts world, and
> have met many people with very great presences, on and off the mat.
> I've noticed that these presences are mostly transmitted to me in
> terms of posture, controlled movement, and apparent focus.  While they
> can exude confidence (sometimes overconfidence), they can also exude
> other things, like humility and respect.
>
> You bring up a very good point about perception, a person is only
> really capable of percieving those things that they consider
> important, which can lead to blindsiding.  Like the finance wizard
> who's trophy wife with the boob job spends all his money.
>
> On Feb 11, 7:16 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well I forgot to mention that I walk softly but carry a big "Club". <
>> (joke) LOL
>>
>> Really though, as you say the confidence definitely counts. When a
>> person exudes confidence others notice, however, how can we
>> distinguish aura from confidence?  I would say that the aura is
>> something that is noticed without any significant walk, dress, stature
>> or other outward appearance.  I never had any karate lessons or any
>> other violent defense strategy curriculum in my life.
>>
>> Aura is just something that glows around you that others sense,
>> something that others perceive about you.
>>
>> I think the person who, in all the history of mankind, had the highest
>> degree of Aura was Jesus the man!  He was the Man! (not a religious
>> comment or indication of deity belief) What I'm saying is that his
>> aura was so huge and so powerful that people would actually step aside
>> as he passed.  I don't think he took karate lessons but I'm not sure.
>> Last time I saw him he was walking along the banks of a river really
>> peaceful like. I didn't get to talk to him but he did say to me "walk
>> with me, be like me".  I was totally perplexed by it and still remain
>> query of the experience.
>> Aside from that, IS it possible that the stronger the aura the more
>> potential the person has to perceive, to heal, to understand?
>> What I find in general, and mostly in the US is that people are just
>> so preoccupied with breasts, sex, drugs and other superficial nuances
>> that perception of the beyond is beyond.  This is the base mentality
>> of the world which if left unchecked will consume all else like the
>> bad apple in the bushel.
>> This world reminds me of a Twilight Zone show I saw once.  There were
>> some thieves that had stolen gobs of gold bullion and had a cave where
>> they were going to lay in vacuum capsules for some 100 or more odd
>> years so to emerge later when the gold would be worth a fortune.  As
>> the time came when they awoke from their sleep much had changed.  They
>> found themselves in a desert with not sign of life.  Only one survived
>> and finally reached a road.  A futuristic vehicle happened by and a
>> male a female in futuristice clothing emerged.  The survivor begged
>> them for water and offered some gold.  The people offered the water
>> but the survivor died anyway.  The woman asked her companion "what was
>> that he was talking about, gold?",  the man responded with "oh it was
>> something that they used for currency once years ago, it's worthless
>> now".
>>
>> On Feb 11, 10:49 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Many years ago when I was right into my martial arts, my Karate
>> > teacher told us that after a few years study you'll gain a confidance
>> > because you'll know how to protect yourself.
>>
>> > Your walk will change, the wayenter a room and look around will be
>> > noticed, people will tell that you have confidance, so much so that
>> > the study of martial arts offten means tha you will most likely not be
>> > called upon to use it.
>>
>> > He was right, as I studied more I noticed these very things.
>>
>> > Confindence is transmitted to others if you have it, people notice. So
>> > I wonder Slip how much of your experiances are due to you being
>> > balanced and confident, and how much to this aura?
>>
>> > On 11 Feb, 16:23, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > I don't know much about aura and especially have no idea as to the
>> > > color but I've been told many times throughout life that I have a very
>> > > strong aura.  I have noticed that when I walk into a place people take
>> > > notice and strangers will sometimes go out of their way to meet me.
>> > > I've been told by many people "there's something about you" while
>> > > others would say something like "you're the man".  I've never
>> > > understood it but can't help but notice it at times.  It is by no
>> > > means an everyday event and as you say, Pat, it is probably greatly
>> > > affected by  mood, stress and stimuli.   I think it is strongest when
>> > > I am feeling fully balanced and centered, confident in my being and
>> > > relaxed. I think this also has to do with my ability to come across
>> > > things I need, that energy that attracts necessities.   There is a
>> > > also a certain determination in my approach almost an insistence when
>> > > I'm focusing on something I need or want, then more so than not it
>> > > comes along.  I think the intensity of the subconscious influences the
>> > > outward flow of energy that is perceived as the aura, again as I said
>> > > I don't know much about it, I just live and go with the flow.  After
>> > > all these years and experience with it I do at times feel there is
>> > > something about me, but I really don't know what it is. I guess it's
>> > > just a spiritual thing.
>>
>> > > On Feb 11, 7:25 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > On 11 Feb, 09:48, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Hey DC,
>>
>> > > > > Welcome.
>>
>> > > > > One of my sisters has sufferd badly from epilepsie all of her life,
>> > > > > she must have in the region of 5-6 fits a day, mostly lasting for a
>> > > > > few mins during which time she just sorta loses focus, gets all
>> > > > > glassey eyed, and just sits there until it passes.
>>
>> > > > > She calls these type of fits her auruas, because that is indeed what
>> > > > > she sees when having them.
>>
>> > > >     There's a difference between the aura about which DcBay is talking
>> > > > about and an epileptic aura.  Similar for migraine 'auras'.  The term
>> > > > aura is used, medically, to denote a group of symptoms that occur just
>> > > > prior to either a migraine or an epileptic seizure.  These sets of
>> > > > symptoms can vary but can be used to notice that a migraine or seizure
>> > > > is coming and the person may be able to take prophylactic medication
>> > > > to prevent the actual attack.  Confusion can come in when, during a
>> > > > medical aura, a patient seems to see spiritual auras.
>>
>> > > >      I believe that DcBay is probably talking about spiritual auras
>> > > > rather than medical auras.  The spiritual aura is that supposed
>> > > > subtle, luminous radiation surrounding living things.  The 'thing'
>> > > > that wsa supposed to be being 'seen' in Kirlian photography but is,
>> > > > really, a depiction of a strong electric field.
>>
>> > > >      For those interested (DcBay, I suppose), I've been told my aura
>> > > > is violet (yes, that's violet NOT violent).  But, the stories have it
>> > > > that colour can vary over time given differing stimuli and stress
>> > > > levels.  Not too much different, then, than the galvanic skin response
>> > > > monitored by polygraphs or, for that matter, the small thermal changes
>> > > > that were picked up by the old 'mood-rings'.  But, as of yet, no one
>> > > > has discovered a substantiable aura-reader, that is, one who can,
>> > > > reliably, tell the difference between a man and a mannekin in a blind
>> > > > test.  This, of course, prooves nothing about auras themselves but
>> > > > says more about the methodologies of con-artists.  Until someone can
>> > > > come up with a scientific basis for the existence of auras, for which
>> > > > I won't be holding my breath, I expect they'll remain a mystery
>> > > > feature of human experience.
>> > > >      For the record, though, I know of no hard evidence against them,
>> > > > either.  But one question strikes me: if they exists, what purpose do
>> > > > they serve?  If they are supposed to be a visable aspect of an
>> > > > individual to help indicate mood to others, then they don't work very
>> > > > well because most people don't see them.  If they are there as another
>> > > > 'field-effect' of a field of spiritual energy, then, the more
>> > > > important questions are how is a field of spiritual energy conformed
>> > > > and, how does it maintain coherence?  I would expect that any flux in
>> > > > 'spiritual coherence' would, naturally, display itself as an
>> > > > interference pattern.  That pattern may well be a 'spiritual aura' or
>> > > > be reflected IN a 'spiritual aura' but, as of yet, it hasn't been
>> > > > seriously investigated (like most claims that might lead to science
>> > > > discovering and having to admit 'God' or 'spirit' as an answer, which
>> > > > is that unwritten dictat that governs what science investigates).
>>
>> > > > > Of course she is also a dedicated and commited Pagan, I just wonder
>> > > > > how much ones belife system dictates ones experainces when it comes 
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > this sort of thing.
>>
>> > > > > I myself have only seen such a thing as can be described as an aura
>> > > > > oncein my life.
>>
>> > > > > I was very stoned, and in a house where a meditation session was 
>> > > > > going
>> > > > > on, with the aid of an accomplished digiredoo player, and very much
>> > > > > 'tranced out' at the time.
>>
>> > > > > On 11 Feb, 02:34, DcBay <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > > > > > HOpe to be able to learn about people's experiences with " 
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