Looking out for number one makes sense until that number one is causing all kinds of problems for other number ones - this is the lesson of the Tragedy of the Commons. My own metaphor, Francis, was of a bacteria colony - good at breeding but then poisoning itself before the substrate it was growing on was remotely exhausted. I've long agreed with Lovelock - the key is in recognising what evolution is (as far as we can best see) and working out if we want to hang around by protecting ourselves from it or to disappear as surely as the dinosaurs. The only difference as that they were daft enough not to see what history was or to see what was coming. We are so stupid we do nothing despite being enlightened. Our current space vehicles remind me someone of primitive spawning in plants - like a group of algae forming a tower to boost one of their number from the surf to the jet stream.
On 25 Feb, 15:54, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > IF humanity as a unity does not help to support the environment, of > which we are a part, blame will mean nothing at all. There will no > longer be such a notion with no thoughts existing due to there being > no humans. > > On Feb 24, 7:35 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I like the idea of looking out for Number One. I agree the Earth will > > take care of it's self. I'm curious to see what effect this economic > > downturn will have on the environment. We certainly will be cutting > > down on our emissions and rain forest consumption. My guess is it > > won't make much if any difference. Then who do we blame? > > > dj > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:28 PM, manfraco FranktheElder > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi to you all! > > > > Dr. James Lovelock may have a point there and we may be doomed if we > > > don’t do anything soon enough. Perhaps it is time that we do something > > > positive about our environment, but most people worry about today and > > > nobody cares about tomorrow. > > > Where are all the bright people of this planet, are they all trying to > > > rip off all the money they can from each other? > > > May I suggest that they use their super brains to save them selves and > > > in doing so they may save humanity? > > > Can anyone answer me those questions? > > > > Kind regads from > > > > Manfraco FranktheElder. > > > > On Feb 25, 9:59 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> I think there already is some plan to save the species, it's called > > >> the International Space Station. I'm sure that once Biosphere 2 is > > >> perfected and utilized at the space station, the earth will no longer > > >> be deemed necessary along with all the people that are left on the > > >> planet. If live is sustainable for a long enough duration, the > > >> escapees can return to earth to restart the process of self > > >> annihilation. Of course the problem then will be sustaining life on > > >> earth. > > > >> On Feb 24, 9:15 am, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Driving to work yesterday, I caught an interview on Radio 4 with Dr > > >> > James > > >> > Lovelock about his new book *The Vanishing Face of Gaia*. I have to > > >> > say, I > > >> > very much like the mischief this old man is causing with his > > >> > predictions > > >> > about a warming Earth. His theories are completely at odds with the > > >> > cloying > > >> > "we can beat it" sentiment of politicians and the false beneficence of > > >> > businesses drunk on the riches of the so-called "Green Rush". Lovelock, > > >> > bless him, says we're already doomed; in a hundred years, the Earth > > >> > will be > > >> > stretched to sustain even one billion people. We shouldn't be focusing > > >> > on > > >> > cutting carbon emissions, saving polar bears, or wasting money on wind > > >> > farms: instead, it's time to start looking at strategies to preserve > > >> > our > > >> > species. The Earth, he says, can take care of itself -- just like it > > >> > always > > >> > has. > > > >> > Lovelock also says no subject should be taboo in developing our > > >> > strategies > > >> > to cope with our fatal over-population of the Earth: nuclear power, GM > > >> > foods, and family planning all need to be on the table. > > > >> > Article:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/camilla_cavendish... > > > >> > Ian- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
