Science class is where the scientific method is taught. The scientific
method is about recording observations. As soon as someone observes a
god, then add it to the textbook. Until then, let all talk of that
stay in the class it belongs in: Philosophy. I don't think that's an
unreasonable request, do you?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> What I mean is I don't know why the people pushing the ID stuff felt
> they had to invent it in the first place.  I wouldn't object to a
> short paragraph in a science text disclaiming any attempt to refute
> the existence of a supreme being.  It could basically say what I said
> above and then go on with the science.  Would you have a problem with
> that?  Stick it in the forward that nobody reads anyway.  When I went
> to public school there were mentions of God in just about every text.
> I turned out alright.
>
> dj
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Chris Jenkins
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The conflict occurs because the ID folks are attempting to get it
>> added to curriculum. I have no problem with people believe in magical
>> unicorns...I only have a problem with it being taught as science.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never really understood the debate.  I generally accept evolution
>>> because it  make sense.  However, while I personally don't subscribe
>>> to Intelligent design, I see no conflict with evolution in someone
>>> believing that God created everything and planned for it to happen
>>> just the way it did.  Conflict with reason certainly, but not with
>>> evolution.  If God can do anything, why couldn't he set up things to
>>> work by natural selection?  It's so simple; I don't see what the
>>> hubbub is about.
>>>
>>> dj
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:01 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have problems with evolution - I don't like it much!  It's the best
>>>> explanation, but there is so much it doesn't explain.  Work in
>>>> progress is usually like this.  We have no idea of what it is all for
>>>> and I dislike the lack of public dreaming about this - brute
>>>> godswanking versus brute how-science seems merely to exclude this.  I
>>>> have been a little persuaded by creationists who make the point that
>>>> biology should be taught (including Darwin) and that this is no reason
>>>> to exclude creationism as symbolic and questioning.  The argument is
>>>> broadly Hegelian - given we seem to have a history (beyond
>>>> vainglorious hero sagas) we can confirm by best efforts, what should
>>>> we do with it in terms of the being we can create?  This seems to me a
>>>> religious question that can be informed by science.  It also questions
>>>> the authority of churches and authority does not like to be
>>>> questioned.
>>>>
>>>> On 26 Feb, 07:24, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Having long believed that Creationism was generally a strange US
>>>>> American phenomenon, I found the following article 
>>>>> interesting:http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,609712,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>> In my personal history, during the long period of my life in which I
>>>>> described myself as a Christian, I never had any problem with
>>>>> accepting the idea of evolution. Many believers, however, seem to have
>>>>> problems and, apparently, not all of these are fundamentalists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Francis
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Feb., 23:20, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Charles Darwin is 200 years old today. He published "On the Origin of
>>>>> > Species" 150 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Darwin was a genial thinker and, on of the things I find most
>>>>> > impressive about him, an honest intellect. Apart from his insights
>>>>> > into evolution and natural selection, one of the most fascinating
>>>>> > things about him was his spiritual journey, leading him from intended
>>>>> > study of theology in preparation for ordination as an Anglican
>>>>> > clergyman to a painful, honest acknowledgement of personal agnosticism
>>>>> > and a repudiation of Christian theological models. And this in
>>>>> > Victorian England.
>>>>>
>>>>> > St. Charles the Evolved, my suggestion as a patron saint for Minds
>>>>> > Eye :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> > Francis
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>

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