I've never really understood the debate.  I generally accept evolution
because it  make sense.  However, while I personally don't subscribe
to Intelligent design, I see no conflict with evolution in someone
believing that God created everything and planned for it to happen
just the way it did.  Conflict with reason certainly, but not with
evolution.  If God can do anything, why couldn't he set up things to
work by natural selection?  It's so simple; I don't see what the
hubbub is about.

dj


On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:01 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have problems with evolution - I don't like it much!  It's the best
> explanation, but there is so much it doesn't explain.  Work in
> progress is usually like this.  We have no idea of what it is all for
> and I dislike the lack of public dreaming about this - brute
> godswanking versus brute how-science seems merely to exclude this.  I
> have been a little persuaded by creationists who make the point that
> biology should be taught (including Darwin) and that this is no reason
> to exclude creationism as symbolic and questioning.  The argument is
> broadly Hegelian - given we seem to have a history (beyond
> vainglorious hero sagas) we can confirm by best efforts, what should
> we do with it in terms of the being we can create?  This seems to me a
> religious question that can be informed by science.  It also questions
> the authority of churches and authority does not like to be
> questioned.
>
> On 26 Feb, 07:24, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Having long believed that Creationism was generally a strange US
>> American phenomenon, I found the following article 
>> interesting:http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,609712,00.html
>>
>> In my personal history, during the long period of my life in which I
>> described myself as a Christian, I never had any problem with
>> accepting the idea of evolution. Many believers, however, seem to have
>> problems and, apparently, not all of these are fundamentalists.
>>
>> Francis
>>
>> On 12 Feb., 23:20, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Charles Darwin is 200 years old today. He published "On the Origin of
>> > Species" 150 years ago.
>>
>> > Darwin was a genial thinker and, on of the things I find most
>> > impressive about him, an honest intellect. Apart from his insights
>> > into evolution and natural selection, one of the most fascinating
>> > things about him was his spiritual journey, leading him from intended
>> > study of theology in preparation for ordination as an Anglican
>> > clergyman to a painful, honest acknowledgement of personal agnosticism
>> > and a repudiation of Christian theological models. And this in
>> > Victorian England.
>>
>> > St. Charles the Evolved, my suggestion as a patron saint for Minds
>> > Eye :-)
>>
>> > Francis
> >
>

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