Okay, I buy that except for the spiritual and emotional damage having
no conscience engenders.  But closer to reality, a blend of the two
have costs but they are small by comparison.  I feel no compunction
about beating taxes nor from taking from the public pot.  My defense
-- or rather excuse -- is that as soon as politicians, banks,
corporations and other such entities cease the same actions, I will
too.   However, in a more rational and reasoned approach, I do regret
to a small degree not paying taxes and taking government handouts.
Would that I lived in a world where such behavior was rewarded rather
than punished I think I'd be a very well balanced and  happy man.

On Mar 2, 11:20 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are free lunches Gruff, as long as one is free of conscience!
>
> On 2 Mar, 14:35, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It may be enviable from one perspective, Vam, but there is a price to
> > pay.   Not that that's an excuse for anything.  There are always
> > prices to pay.  But it's true as some wiseacre once said, there's no
> > such thing as a free lunch.
>
> > On Mar 1, 8:50 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Wow, Gruff, don't I envy your unliable state of such delectable
> > > freedoms !  Seriously.
>
> > > On 2 Mar, 00:32, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I may be the outlaw, outlier, oddball on this issue, but I've always
> > > > regarded property as owning you rather than you owning property.  You
> > > > never finish paying for it (assessments, property taxes, maintenance,
> > > > etc.).  You have to pay fees and commissions to buy property and pay
> > > > fees and commissions again when you sell it.  You have to protect it
> > > > with homestead declarations and a plethora of insurance to cover all
> > > > the possibilities that insurance does it's best to exempt itself from
> > > > paying.  You can't pack up your property and move it to a new location
> > > > if you get some lousy neighbors, and you're always subject to lawsuits
> > > > and other claims from careless transgressors, trespassers and
> > > > tradesmen.   Owning property has never struck me as such a good
> > > > deal.
>
> > > > I own my RV which, since it's got wheels, fulfills my primary
> > > > consideration -- mobility.  I have no insurance on anything except for
> > > > the absolute minimum required by law (liability only).  Of course I
> > > > also have no responsibilities: no wife, no kids, no debt, no property,
> > > > and no headaches.
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