I have heard that the left hand is considered unclean. Presumably because it is the preferred hand for removal of...residue. Not sure if this is a Muslim thing or a no fresh running water thing.
dj On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > Question from ignorance....I have heard that those of islamic faith > etc. find the use of paper to be crass at the very least. Anyone know? > > On Mar 11, 10:55 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> Small and beautiful and you raise the issue of toilets. Of course, >> one tends to favour the old Crapper to the Adamant, and we'll have >> none of the foreign muck in Blightly (I once mistakenly thought this >> nickname for Old Albion arose because everyone here has piles). We >> will weigh every German when they come in and send them on their way >> (as we are apt so to do) after calculating how much general effluent >> they should take back with them to compensate for what of their >> culture they leave here. I am currently in love with a German- >> speaking woman - fortunately she is a Belgian and thus rather refined >> in these matters and owns a septic tank. To discover that bidets were >> neither low to the ground water fountains for intelligent cats, nor >> the footbaths my father told me they were, is disconcerting. The >> French, of course, rarely try to come to Britain since Bonaparte >> ceased his urgings after his confrontation with arsenic 'wallpaper' - >> one understands this is because they have morbid fear of running water >> and toothbrushes. We have evaded such soft passions as wet toilet >> paper in the UK so far, but no doubt our womenfolk are massed in some >> monstrous regiment waiting to try it our was the advertising men tell >> them it is an essential prerequisite of the good life. Is the filthy >> stuff here already Francis, and being used to wipe make-up off faces >> and slime off babies. I would feel much less embarrassed about the >> times I placed my head into a bidet whilst fighting the Frog or at >> least in France travelling to Portugal to fight him if our good ladies >> are using re-branded toilet paper for facial purposes? >> >> Col. Blithely-Unaware (RN rtd.) >> >> On 11 Mar, 17:24, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Zer goot!...I'm too modist to say how I deal with such things.... >> >> > On Mar 11, 8:54 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > It's only the decadent French who use bidets, Orn, in Germany >> > > sensitive people uses two kind of toilet-paper, first dry, then moist! >> > > The old-fashioned toilets with a flat shelf above the water where the >> > > stools land so that they can be first examined before flushing them >> > > down are dying out - I seem to remember an hilarious meditation on >> > > them in Erica Jong's "Fear of Flying". >> >> > > Francis >> >> > > On 11 Mrz., 15:41, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > gee gabby, didn't know those of you in Deutchland used paper...thought >> > > > you were more civilized! ...bidets and all.... >> >> > > > On Mar 11, 7:37 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > Simplifying matters to the virtual extinction of the very matter >> > > > > combines all the qualities of a universal top seller, true, Orn, but >> > > > > don't come begging for toilet paper afterwards. >> >> > > > > On 11 Mrz., 12:12, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > This is one thing I liked about Clinton...during his first year I >> > > > > > think it was, he established a major paper reduction act.... >> >> > > > > > On Mar 10, 11:57 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > Brilliant 'old girl' (as grim a patronising term from Bulldog >> > > > > > > Drummond >> > > > > > > as can be mustard given this investigatory turn). There has not >> > > > > > > been >> > > > > > > a better from since I tried to get Great Manchester Police to >> > > > > > > cut down >> > > > > > > on unnecessary forms and they issued a form to cut down on forms >> > > > > > > (though I subsequently discovered there was no form to >> > > > > > > requisition >> > > > > > > that form). No doubt what we all desperately need is a European >> > > > > > > Administrative Bureau in order to cut down on administration. >> > > > > > > Its >> > > > > > > buildings should be small, beautiful (architect-designed), >> > > > > > > stacked >> > > > > > > with looted art (oops - I mean 'specially commissioned') and >> > > > > > > generally >> > > > > > > a cure for the massive unemployment that traditionally leads us >> > > > > > > to >> > > > > > > war. Perhaps the main occupation of its anti-bureaucrat >> > > > > > > bureaucrats >> > > > > > > could be 'cutting the mustard'? >> >> > > > > > > On 10 Mar, 16:25, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > Have you ever tried to get an adequate response by using the >> > > > > > > > following >> > > > > > > > form? >> >> > > > > > > >http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/admin-burdens-reduction/form_en.htm >> >> > > > > > > > On 10 Mrz., 13:33, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > The modern Nazis who were installed in our bureaucracies >> > > > > > > > > long ago to >> > > > > > > > > rise again. It is far too hard to stand up against >> > > > > > > > > injustice in our >> > > > > > > > > supposedly free societies. 'The Boys From Brazil' got it >> > > > > > > > > all wrong - >> > > > > > > > > it's more like Robert Harris' 'Ghost' in which a poorly >> > > > > > > > > concealed >> > > > > > > > > Cherie Blair is CIA. >> >> > > > > > > > > On 10 Mar, 11:10, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > Who is they? >> >> > > > > > > > > > On 10 Mrz., 11:43, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > And who will they turn on when all the rose gardens are >> > > > > > > > > > > dead? >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 11:57, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry, we won't take away your gravy and custard >> > > > > > > > > > > > again. And for >> > > > > > > > > > > > his sausages I have taught my son to prefer mustard to >> > > > > > > > > > > > ketchup. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mrz., 00:48, archytas <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > And the Germans have invaded Humour, or so it seems! >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 19:00, frantheman >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rosenspray & Guildenstern are dead! >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mrz., 19:52, archytas >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL - we shall have to start Rosenspraying our >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > politicians instead of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > custarding them. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 15:38, gabbydott <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too late, it's already been >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produced:http://www.pflanzotheke.de/shop/exec/product/804/12773/Combi-Rosenspr... >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mrz., 11:38, archytas >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Produce the vaccine Gabby - I tend to prefer >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > truly scientific >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solutions. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mar, 18:52, gabbydott >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn’t want to live in your perfect >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rose garden, although it >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > smells nice in there. To me, vaccination >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems the more liberating >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > form of protection against the dark of the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > night. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mrz., 16:40, archytas >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small is beautiful was the title of a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > book by EF (Fritz) Schumacher. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It impressed me when I was >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impressionable and I was involved with >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cooperative-commonwealth movement for a >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while - mostly trying to keep >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a few jobs afloat. I then read his >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Guide for the Perplexed' - you >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could almost imagine an Errol Flynn >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > style sword fight amongst us to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get to it! It was rubbish. >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is much in the notion of doing >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things small though, especially >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now we could globalize on a fair basis. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Free markets and such have >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always been unreal in many senses - >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > almost in the way that >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > epistemology tends to boil down to >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conditions of existence. >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something, frankly, has to protect them >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from banditry. Ideology >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always seems to lapse to idiocy at the >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > point we could be doing >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something - a bit like that point in >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science when there is a critical >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiment that will bring research >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > programmes together. We could be >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying all sorts of stuff in a spirit of >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protected competition. The >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking doesn't have to be small and >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can range from anything from >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using satellite photographs to chose >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plant types, fertiliser amounts - >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on to the creation of small, >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > metaphorically gated communities to help >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give us roots and handle policing and so >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on. Much of my eventual >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasoning on this involves insurance >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements amongst communities >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > globally and cutting out the viler forms >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of bureaucratic waste (like >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overpaid bwankers and lawyers) - our >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aims would probably centre on >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resilience.- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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