I have heard that the 'unclean' hand has more to do with how one eliminates #1, not #1
On Mar 11, 10:59 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > I have heard that the left hand is considered unclean. Presumably > because it is the preferred hand for removal of...residue. Not sure > if this is a Muslim thing or a no fresh running water thing. > > dj > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM, ornamentalmind > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Question from ignorance....I have heard that those of islamic faith > > etc. find the use of paper to be crass at the very least. Anyone know? > > > On Mar 11, 10:55 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Small and beautiful and you raise the issue of toilets. Of course, > >> one tends to favour the old Crapper to the Adamant, and we'll have > >> none of the foreign muck in Blightly (I once mistakenly thought this > >> nickname for Old Albion arose because everyone here has piles). We > >> will weigh every German when they come in and send them on their way > >> (as we are apt so to do) after calculating how much general effluent > >> they should take back with them to compensate for what of their > >> culture they leave here. I am currently in love with a German- > >> speaking woman - fortunately she is a Belgian and thus rather refined > >> in these matters and owns a septic tank. To discover that bidets were > >> neither low to the ground water fountains for intelligent cats, nor > >> the footbaths my father told me they were, is disconcerting. The > >> French, of course, rarely try to come to Britain since Bonaparte > >> ceased his urgings after his confrontation with arsenic 'wallpaper' - > >> one understands this is because they have morbid fear of running water > >> and toothbrushes. We have evaded such soft passions as wet toilet > >> paper in the UK so far, but no doubt our womenfolk are massed in some > >> monstrous regiment waiting to try it our was the advertising men tell > >> them it is an essential prerequisite of the good life. Is the filthy > >> stuff here already Francis, and being used to wipe make-up off faces > >> and slime off babies. I would feel much less embarrassed about the > >> times I placed my head into a bidet whilst fighting the Frog or at > >> least in France travelling to Portugal to fight him if our good ladies > >> are using re-branded toilet paper for facial purposes? > > >> Col. Blithely-Unaware (RN rtd.) > > >> On 11 Mar, 17:24, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Zer goot!...I'm too modist to say how I deal with such things.... > > >> > On Mar 11, 8:54 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > It's only the decadent French who use bidets, Orn, in Germany > >> > > sensitive people uses two kind of toilet-paper, first dry, then moist! > >> > > The old-fashioned toilets with a flat shelf above the water where the > >> > > stools land so that they can be first examined before flushing them > >> > > down are dying out - I seem to remember an hilarious meditation on > >> > > them in Erica Jong's "Fear of Flying". > > >> > > Francis > > >> > > On 11 Mrz., 15:41, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > gee gabby, didn't know those of you in Deutchland used > >> > > > paper...thought > >> > > > you were more civilized! ...bidets and all.... > > >> > > > On Mar 11, 7:37 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > Simplifying matters to the virtual extinction of the very matter > >> > > > > combines all the qualities of a universal top seller, true, Orn, > >> > > > > but > >> > > > > don't come begging for toilet paper afterwards. > > >> > > > > On 11 Mrz., 12:12, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > This is one thing I liked about Clinton...during his first year I > >> > > > > > think it was, he established a major paper reduction act.... > > >> > > > > > On Mar 10, 11:57 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > Brilliant 'old girl' (as grim a patronising term from Bulldog > >> > > > > > > Drummond > >> > > > > > > as can be mustard given this investigatory turn). There has > >> > > > > > > not been > >> > > > > > > a better from since I tried to get Great Manchester Police to > >> > > > > > > cut down > >> > > > > > > on unnecessary forms and they issued a form to cut down on > >> > > > > > > forms > >> > > > > > > (though I subsequently discovered there was no form to > >> > > > > > > requisition > >> > > > > > > that form). No doubt what we all desperately need is a > >> > > > > > > European > >> > > > > > > Administrative Bureau in order to cut down on administration. > >> > > > > > > Its > >> > > > > > > buildings should be small, beautiful (architect-designed), > >> > > > > > > stacked > >> > > > > > > with looted art (oops - I mean 'specially commissioned') and > >> > > > > > > generally > >> > > > > > > a cure for the massive unemployment that traditionally leads > >> > > > > > > us to > >> > > > > > > war. Perhaps the main occupation of its anti-bureaucrat > >> > > > > > > bureaucrats > >> > > > > > > could be 'cutting the mustard'? > > >> > > > > > > On 10 Mar, 16:25, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > Have you ever tried to get an adequate response by using the > >> > > > > > > > following > >> > > > > > > > form? > > >> > > > > > > >http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/admin-burdens-reduction/form_en.htm > > >> > > > > > > > On 10 Mrz., 13:33, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > The modern Nazis who were installed in our bureaucracies > >> > > > > > > > > long ago to > >> > > > > > > > > rise again. It is far too hard to stand up against > >> > > > > > > > > injustice in our > >> > > > > > > > > supposedly free societies. 'The Boys From Brazil' got it > >> > > > > > > > > all wrong - > >> > > > > > > > > it's more like Robert Harris' 'Ghost' in which a poorly > >> > > > > > > > > concealed > >> > > > > > > > > Cherie Blair is CIA. > > >> > > > > > > > > On 10 Mar, 11:10, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > Who is they? > > >> > > > > > > > > > On 10 Mrz., 11:43, archytas <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > And who will they turn on when all the rose gardens > >> > > > > > > > > > > are dead? > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mar, 11:57, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry, we won't take away your gravy and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > custard again. And for > >> > > > > > > > > > > > his sausages I have taught my son to prefer mustard > >> > > > > > > > > > > > to ketchup. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Mrz., 00:48, archytas <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > And the Germans have invaded Humour, or so it > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > seems! > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 19:00, frantheman > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rosenspray & Guildenstern are dead! > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mrz., 19:52, archytas > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL - we shall have to start Rosenspraying our > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > politicians instead of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > custarding them. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 15:38, gabbydott > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Too late, it's already been > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produced:http://www.pflanzotheke.de/shop/exec/product/804/12773/Combi-Rosenspr... > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mrz., 11:38, archytas > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Produce the vaccine Gabby - I tend to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prefer truly scientific > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solutions. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mar, 18:52, gabbydott > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn’t want to live in your perfect > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rose garden, although it > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > smells nice in there. To me, vaccination > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seems the more liberating > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > form of protection against the dark of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the night. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7 Mrz., 16:40, archytas > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Small is beautiful was the title of a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > book by EF (Fritz) Schumacher. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It impressed me when I was > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impressionable and I was involved with > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cooperative-commonwealth movement for > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a while - mostly trying to keep > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a few jobs afloat. I then read his > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Guide for the Perplexed' - you > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could almost imagine an Errol Flynn > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > style sword fight amongst us to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get to it! It was rubbish. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is much in the notion of doing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things small though, especially > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now we could globalize on a fair > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis. Free markets and such have > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always been unreal in many senses - > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > almost in the way that > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > epistemology tends to boil down to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conditions of existence. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something, frankly, has to protect > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them from banditry. Ideology > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > always seems to lapse to idiocy at the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > point we could be doing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something - a bit like that point in > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science when there is a critical > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiment that will bring research > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > programmes together. We could be > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying all sorts of stuff in a spirit > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of protected competition. The > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking doesn't have to be small and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can range from anything from > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using satellite photographs to chose > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plant types, fertiliser amounts - > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on to the creation of small, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > metaphorically gated communities to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > give us roots and handle policing and > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so on. Much of my eventual > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reasoning on this involves insurance > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements amongst communities > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > globally and cutting out the viler > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forms of bureaucratic waste (like > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overpaid bwankers and lawyers) > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
