It is my understanding that the 'slums of Chicago' are much better due
to such community involvement.

On Mar 27, 8:50 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I am color blind but I'm not culture blind.  I'd like to say it's just
> a class issue and the problem is poverty rather then race or
> 'immigrant' related.  The evidence, as you suggest Slip, is contrary
> to this theory however.  At some point America stopped trying to
> assimilate and instead embraced 'diversity.'  I believe black leaders
> like Al Sharpton, Jesse 'cut his balls off' Jackson and Quan L X hurt
> their race much more then they help.  They stoke the flames of racial
> hatred and resentment rather then focus on root causes and come up
> with viable solutions.  I see a similar thing occurring now with
> politicians and some media whores stoking resentment between 'Wall
> Street' and 'Main Street.'  Granted, not the same, but there are
> parallels.
>
> All the time wasted vilifying 'the Man' and trying to keep criminals
> out of jail and crying discrimination could be spent mentoring
> children and giving them self confidence, self awareness and help them
> develop a sense of personal responsibility.  It's the soft bigotry of
> low expectations that destroys these kids and keeps many dependent for
> the rest of their lives.  People are being raised to think of
> themselves as victims.  It should be no surprise that many of these
> kids grow up to be malcontents and scofflaws.  They are being used.
> Obama built his career as a 'community organizer' in the slums of
> Chicago.  You only need to look at those neighborhoods today to see
> how effective he has been.  That is to say; not at all.  Perhaps it is
> time to realize what he has been doing doesn't work and try something
> new.  It's time for change.  End the racism that is Affirmative
> Action.
>
> Yes, We Can!
>
> dj
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > That is quite a long time ago and I'm sure as memory would have it,
> > the Oakland area was something to behold and I must say that I have
> > seen many a "Kewl" town go to waste as the rift raft moved in.  I
> > rarely go to areas of my early youth in NY when I go visit family and
> > friends, but I remember last time I did it was a far cry from what I
> > remembered when living there.  The area has become so deplorable that
> > I oft wonder how people find it viable for habitation.  I guess in a
> > sense it is all relative as many are foreigners that come from dirt
> > floor dwellings without running water and so perceive the lifestyle as
> > heaven on earth.  It is hard not to sound racist but commentary is
> > securely founded upon observation and you can make your own
> > determination.
> > But for Oakland and the Oakland black community I find it an absurdity
> > and a insult to the National Black Community who have struggled
> > through adversity and have not only prospered but have given, in many
> > forms, a great deal to our society and nation.
> > The problem here is that even if there is a problem with the Oakland
> > police department, these people are using the wrong platform on which
> > to air their grievances.  SO because the community feels oppressed by
> > the police department, this career criminal gets lauded as a hero?
> > I understand that police in general can at times overreact but the
> > fact is that thousands of police are physically assaulted every year
> > by suspects and in routine stops which result in an overly adamant
> > citizen going berserk.
>
> > I just find this kind of news very saddening because I am always
> > hoping that we are moving along in the progression of peaceful
> > coexistence.  We are humans capable of getting along with what may
> > appear as oppositional.  You can't put a lion in with a lamb and
> > expect that they can somehow work it out.  These people are obviously
> > under some kind of duress but as I said earlier, how much time are
> > they expending to create an environment that is conducive to peaceful
> > living?
>
> > Are we going to make it?
>
> > On Mar 27, 2:02 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Wow.. I left the Oakland, - Alameda area in 1974,  I wonder if it has even
> >> changed,, that is unreal..  In its own right it was a kewl town.. but it
> >> seems at first glance,,  but I do know that there had been massive
> >> rebuilding in the down town area..   Strange even for me.
>
> >> Allan
>
> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > This video I watched earlier brought about an awareness that people
> >> > are still wallowing in a lifestyle that to me seems decades old.  I
> >> > asked myself, Could it Be?   But nonetheless the reality shows how
> >> > people, who are living in a microcosm, can remain so stagnated in a
> >> > swirling eddy of nowhereness while the world around them flowers.
> >> > It's like discovering a lost tribe in some remote jungle.
> >> > ----deleted--
> >> > The person claims racist terrorism by the police but does not reflect
> >> > on any level of lawlessness among the citizens of Oakland.  Mixon was
> >> > a criminal in violation of parole, carrying a gun, still accused of
> >> > raping a minor.  What is wrong with these people?  Could it be that
> >> > there is still this decades old racist attitude towards black people
> >> > in Oakland, because I have never seen anything like it anywhere else
> >> > I've been.
>
> >> > Maybe I'm wrong, what's your opinion?
>
> >> --
> >> (
> >>  )
> >> I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
>
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