Dang, I meant pallor, not parlor. Wish I could edit that up there, it looks dumb.
dj On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It is my understanding that the 'slums of Chicago' are much better due >> to such community involvement. > > Maybe. Not sure about that since I don't live there. Evidence from > crime and unemployment stats can be misleading, I know, but they seem > to hint at continued problems. I understand there's been some > improvement in the schools but I think this has less to do with > 'community involvement' and more to do with changes in the public > school system focusing on accountability and responsibility. If Obama > was a part of this I applaud his efforts and success. However, from > what I remember hearing about his work, it had more to do with > Affirmative Action policies and enriching the Trinity United Church Of > Christ and his buddy Bill Ayers with some rich dead dude's endowment > money. > > If they found a way to make parents care about their kids I'd love to > hear about it. That's the root cause of most of our social and > education problems and no one has come up with an answer to that one. > Orn, we're on opposite sides of the political spectrum so I know we'll > disagree on just about everything. If I thought I had the answers I'd > post them here. I think it might be a good start at ending > discrimination if we removed deliberate discrimination from our laws. > Believe it or not, I do believe in fairness. I work for the state of > Texas. I have seen time and time again good employees being passed > over for promotion or raises in order to advance a 'person of color' > or a woman. Some are patient and get a promotion later and some get > mad and find a job in the private sector where merit is considered > over color and gender. We lose a good employee for no good reason. > It's a damn shame really. > > Yes, in case you didn't guess, I'm a person of parlor. And male. In > my city of Houston I am a minority. Maybe I should form a club and > lobby for city benefits. Nah. > > dj > >> >> On Mar 27, 8:50 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I am color blind but I'm not culture blind. I'd like to say it's just >>> a class issue and the problem is poverty rather then race or >>> 'immigrant' related. The evidence, as you suggest Slip, is contrary >>> to this theory however. At some point America stopped trying to >>> assimilate and instead embraced 'diversity.' I believe black leaders >>> like Al Sharpton, Jesse 'cut his balls off' Jackson and Quan L X hurt >>> their race much more then they help. They stoke the flames of racial >>> hatred and resentment rather then focus on root causes and come up >>> with viable solutions. I see a similar thing occurring now with >>> politicians and some media whores stoking resentment between 'Wall >>> Street' and 'Main Street.' Granted, not the same, but there are >>> parallels. >>> >>> All the time wasted vilifying 'the Man' and trying to keep criminals >>> out of jail and crying discrimination could be spent mentoring >>> children and giving them self confidence, self awareness and help them >>> develop a sense of personal responsibility. It's the soft bigotry of >>> low expectations that destroys these kids and keeps many dependent for >>> the rest of their lives. People are being raised to think of >>> themselves as victims. It should be no surprise that many of these >>> kids grow up to be malcontents and scofflaws. They are being used. >>> Obama built his career as a 'community organizer' in the slums of >>> Chicago. You only need to look at those neighborhoods today to see >>> how effective he has been. That is to say; not at all. Perhaps it is >>> time to realize what he has been doing doesn't work and try something >>> new. It's time for change. End the racism that is Affirmative >>> Action. >>> >>> Yes, We Can! >>> >>> dj >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > That is quite a long time ago and I'm sure as memory would have it, >>> > the Oakland area was something to behold and I must say that I have >>> > seen many a "Kewl" town go to waste as the rift raft moved in. I >>> > rarely go to areas of my early youth in NY when I go visit family and >>> > friends, but I remember last time I did it was a far cry from what I >>> > remembered when living there. The area has become so deplorable that >>> > I oft wonder how people find it viable for habitation. I guess in a >>> > sense it is all relative as many are foreigners that come from dirt >>> > floor dwellings without running water and so perceive the lifestyle as >>> > heaven on earth. It is hard not to sound racist but commentary is >>> > securely founded upon observation and you can make your own >>> > determination. >>> > But for Oakland and the Oakland black community I find it an absurdity >>> > and a insult to the National Black Community who have struggled >>> > through adversity and have not only prospered but have given, in many >>> > forms, a great deal to our society and nation. >>> > The problem here is that even if there is a problem with the Oakland >>> > police department, these people are using the wrong platform on which >>> > to air their grievances. SO because the community feels oppressed by >>> > the police department, this career criminal gets lauded as a hero? >>> > I understand that police in general can at times overreact but the >>> > fact is that thousands of police are physically assaulted every year >>> > by suspects and in routine stops which result in an overly adamant >>> > citizen going berserk. >>> >>> > I just find this kind of news very saddening because I am always >>> > hoping that we are moving along in the progression of peaceful >>> > coexistence. We are humans capable of getting along with what may >>> > appear as oppositional. You can't put a lion in with a lamb and >>> > expect that they can somehow work it out. These people are obviously >>> > under some kind of duress but as I said earlier, how much time are >>> > they expending to create an environment that is conducive to peaceful >>> > living? >>> >>> > Are we going to make it? >>> >>> > On Mar 27, 2:02 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Wow.. I left the Oakland, - Alameda area in 1974, I wonder if it has >>> >> even >>> >> changed,, that is unreal.. In its own right it was a kewl town.. but it >>> >> seems at first glance,, but I do know that there had been massive >>> >> rebuilding in the down town area.. Strange even for me. >>> >>> >> Allan >>> >>> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >> > This video I watched earlier brought about an awareness that people >>> >> > are still wallowing in a lifestyle that to me seems decades old. I >>> >> > asked myself, Could it Be? But nonetheless the reality shows how >>> >> > people, who are living in a microcosm, can remain so stagnated in a >>> >> > swirling eddy of nowhereness while the world around them flowers. >>> >> > It's like discovering a lost tribe in some remote jungle. >>> >> > ----deleted-- >>> >> > The person claims racist terrorism by the police but does not reflect >>> >> > on any level of lawlessness among the citizens of Oakland. Mixon was >>> >> > a criminal in violation of parole, carrying a gun, still accused of >>> >> > raping a minor. What is wrong with these people? Could it be that >>> >> > there is still this decades old racist attitude towards black people >>> >> > in Oakland, because I have never seen anything like it anywhere else >>> >> > I've been. >>> >>> >> > Maybe I'm wrong, what's your opinion? >>> >>> >> -- >>> >> ( >>> >> ) >>> >> I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
