You are touching upon a crux most overlooked, that being "living in
harmony with everything and all that is".  This is the where purpose
gets lost amongst humanity and the realization of purpose gets
obscured.  People can't see purpose because we are not living in
harmony with all things.  We are too busy amassing fortunes and
climbing economic ladders in a world where everything is there for
free just as it was in the beginning.  We corrupted and therefore lost
purpose and as you say, Molly, have moved over to the other side of
the spectrum, out of reach and out of touch.  Arch would suffer the
soul for the sake of the scroungers who are simply the refuse of a
system that is corrosive to acknowledgment and advancement of the
soul.  Quality of life is not recognized as that of soul compatibility
but as a resultant of financial gain and greed.  Until we as a
collective consciousness return to the garden, there can be no quality
of life, which seems to continually diminish each year, despite
technological advances.  We are in fact plagued by wars, disease,
pollution, corruption and greed, to name a few.  We can in individual
terms accomplish a state of consciousness that is conducive to a
quality life.
Occasionally I have opportunity to challenge a person's personal
belief or degree of soul recognition, usually during a situation where
there is something they are selling and at a point, through
observation, I see that they are involved with or purport to be
spiritually oriented.  During conversation I offer, "If you really
want to do something that will enrich your soul, you will just give it
to me".  Some just laugh but others will see the seriousness in my
expression and actually think about it before laughing.   I'll toss in
confirmation queries like "You do believe you have a soul, right?"
Still, there is no real connection as they are so "locked in" to the
concepts of this world and what they have learned to understand as
achievement, accomplishment, and success.
There have been those people that do give items away without my
encouragement and perhaps they are already aware of the personal
benefits associated with giving.  The others reveal to me the
superficiality of their religious affiliation, probably based on the
need to belong to something or peer group inclinations.  Of course,
this all based on one's belief in the soul, which we in Minds Eye have
in several threads dissected the theory, supposition and possibility
of it's existence.





On Apr 12, 7:47 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think that there is a connection between soul and quality of life.
> If you are living a soulful life, with soul integrated into your being
> in such away that makes it central to your consciousness, your quality
> of life will be such that you are living your highest potential and in
> harmony with everything and all that is.  Chances are this would put
> you at the other end of the spectrum of life than mere survival, which
> may have been implied in you metaphor of scrounging through garbage.
>
> On Apr 11, 10:40 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I suppose we could ponder the soul whilst scrounging through garbage
> > cans.  I suspect evolution would not spare much energy to such purpose
> > and that natural selection would soon produce non-soul-pondering
> > garbage bin scroungers.
>
> > On 11 Apr, 16:22, Michael Berkovits <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > To enjoy it as best you can.
>
> > > On Apr 11, 5:08 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Thank yo for all the answers I enjoy reading them  and I apoligize for 
> > > > the
> > > > delay  had an o-ertunity to do some silver work..
>
> > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:17 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > When you say purpose what exactly do you mean?
>
> > > > What I mean as I view things what I see is  that to me the Human Body 
> > > > has
> > > > two parts   part one the most visiable the body.. which is a shell that
> > > > returns to the earth from where it originated from.
> > > > The second part  less obvious is the Soul  and it is immortal and here 
> > > > in
> > > > this time conscious the two function ass  one.. and the perpouse is to
> > > > learnand develop a relationship with the creator.  as crazy as this 
> > > > sounds I
> > > > think the entirity of the universe was not created from nothing but 
> > > > rather
> > > > from the essence of this creative being and because the universe is 
> > > > created
> > > > from his essence he is  greater than the whole..
> > > >  back to the topic,,
> > > > For some reason this being loves to be loved  becase a person wants to 
> > > > love
> > > > him  rather because of the laws that he created a free choice type of
> > > > thing...
> > > > as a person grows there is a biological factor that makes us feel good
> > > > inside when we respond to our wolrd with out causing harm and being 
> > > > good.
>
> > > > Our bodies allows our souls to expeerience this realm of being, with the
> > > > objective is to become one with the creator.  Now there are many 
> > > > different
> > > > beliefs systems every thing from athiesim ro shaminism and everything in
> > > > between. Now an excellent example of a man-soul reaching this state 
> > > > lies in
> > > > jesus  some 2000 years ago,,  once a person gets rid of the dogma and
> > > > doctrine.
> > > > and examine the glimpses of how he handled his daily life..
>
> > > > Each being is responsible for the response of live that is lived in this
> > > > body and recorded as experience on the imortal soul. On the death of 
> > > > this
> > > > body we join  again with the Creator and give accounting of our 
> > > > action,, and
> > > > because we know this law of "Be Good doing no Harm" we also stand in
> > > > judgement of ourselves, because we are the one who know each other the
> > > > best.. excuse and justification ,, well you are the one that judges 
> > > > their
> > > > validity.
>
> > > > I do believe in reincarnation,, and am sure it does happen but I would 
> > > > not
> > > > count on it as a second chance for all practical purposes it is one time
> > > > around.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > > When you say life do you mean only huamn life or life in general?
>
> > > > > On 9 Apr, 07:26, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > It is probably been hashed about a dozen or more times.. but I am
> > > > > interested
> > > > > > it from a personal point of view  not the deriding of another 
> > > > > > persons
> > > > > > beliefs.
>
> > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > (
> > > > > >  )
> > > > > > I_D Allan
>
> > > > --
> > > > (
> > > >  )
> > > > I_D Allan
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