I hug my tree daily, but I don't agree that we have established that
"purpose is not synonymous
with Intent " One's intent is not always the others purpose, though we
like to tell ourselves that as we stack our random thoughts while our
brains try to give those thoughts purpose and intent other than
consuming, eliminating, or reproducing.

On Apr 15, 12:58 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, but now that Vam has established that Purpose is not synonymous
> with Intent and Drive, we can clearly see that trees have Purpose,
> whether they enjoy having it or not is irrelevant as they still
> provide enjoyment for many species irrespective of intent.   Have you
> talked to your tree lately?
>
> On Apr 15, 12:04 am, monkebus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Trees are an intricate stack of cells that consume, eliminate, and
> > reproduce. But they don't stack things for their own enjoyment or the
> > enjoyment of others like we clever humans do.
>
> > On Apr 14, 11:45 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Nice breakdown with purpose, intent and drive, Vam, it puts it in a
> > > much clearer perspective.
> > > I think this also coincides rather well with my post on the 10th
> > > 7:53pm, especially the trees.
>
> > > On Apr 14, 10:46 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Rocks become sand and clay, Gruff !
>
> > > > I see that as being its purpose. Imagine how else would we have
> > > > created our dwellings, worn clothes and eaten juicy melons !
>
> > > > In my view, the " purpose " need not be synonimous with intent or
> > > > drive. It may just lie in " consequences " or " usefulness,"  to the
> > > > rest of the creation down the line.
>
> > > > Along these lines, trees are very much laden with purposes !
>
> > > > On Apr 15, 4:09 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Purpose presupposes sentience.  Rocks have no purpose other than being
> > > > > a rock, if one can call that a purpose.  I can't.  But sentient
> > > > > creatures can have purpose.  Purpose I believe is a choice, at least
> > > > > in creatures of higher intelligence, and since we are the highest
> > > > > intelligence in the known universe we have the greatest ability to
> > > > > create and choose purpose, which we do.  Our purpose -- at least as
> > > > > far back as cave art -- is self defined, and given that much I suspect
> > > > > ever since our minds became elevated above all others we have chosen
> > > > > our own purpose.
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