Nice breakdown with purpose, intent and drive, Vam, it puts it in a
much clearer perspective.
I think this also coincides rather well with my post on the 10th
7:53pm, especially the trees.

On Apr 14, 10:46 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
> Rocks become sand and clay, Gruff !
>
> I see that as being its purpose. Imagine how else would we have
> created our dwellings, worn clothes and eaten juicy melons !
>
> In my view, the " purpose " need not be synonimous with intent or
> drive. It may just lie in " consequences " or " usefulness,"  to the
> rest of the creation down the line.
>
> Along these lines, trees are very much laden with purposes !
>
> On Apr 15, 4:09 am, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Purpose presupposes sentience.  Rocks have no purpose other than being
> > a rock, if one can call that a purpose.  I can't.  But sentient
> > creatures can have purpose.  Purpose I believe is a choice, at least
> > in creatures of higher intelligence, and since we are the highest
> > intelligence in the known universe we have the greatest ability to
> > create and choose purpose, which we do.  Our purpose -- at least as
> > far back as cave art -- is self defined, and given that much I suspect
> > ever since our minds became elevated above all others we have chosen
> > our own purpose.
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