“It isn't just thought, OM ! The thought pervades the emotion, the will and willingness to do, the consequent ( mass ) momentum powered with ( mob ) intent ... so religion needs as much examination as any other thought or idea. It is our responsibility to examine our thoughts and ideas, our " religion." “ – Vam
Vam, when one thinks about it in that way, one can miss the fact that any such cognition is…well, thought. Also, with what will we ‘examine our thoughts and ideas’?....other than…you guessed it! This does not mean to imply that emotion, will, intent etc are any less ‘real’ than thought. They are all aspects of ‘mind’…that larger mind than brain that few here wish to accept. On Apr 15, 8:44 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > It isn't just thought, OM ! > > The thought pervades the emotion, the will and willingness to do, the > consequent ( mass ) momentum powered with ( mob ) intent ... so > religion needs as much examination as any other thought or idea. > > It is our responsibility to examine our thoughts and ideas, our " > religion." > > On Apr 15, 7:38 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "...I do agree that religion has been responsible for ....." - SD > > > Again, 'religion' has no existence in and of itself. Religion is but > > an area of thought that humans have…and I suggest innately. That > > aside, humans and not any concept are or can be responsible. Now, this > > could be another topic…again. Can humans be responsible? :) > > > On Apr 15, 4:20 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I liked that movie also. We all have a drive to explain life, and do > > > so endlessly, from our own viewpoints. I posted the clip as an > > > example of pre rational mind sets, as an off set to gruff's rational > > > post. Both are object driven and see man as other, and often, when > > > posited in these mind sets, we see ourselves as other, and explain > > > ourselves as other. I did it because he...I am because he...my car, > > > my home, my profession, my idea...all objectify us. There are even, I > > > think, transrational mindsets that allow for this objectification. My > > > faith, your faith, god is...all express at least a degree of > > > separation. And separation without the one allows the object. I > > > bring this up because I don't believe that I truly experienced the > > > flow of my internal morality until I was able to live from that > > > position of the one and the many (the ultimate paradox) - God as the > > > expression of the individual man who collectively express the god > > > within (whether they are aware of it or not, each perfectly ordered > > > unto themselves) Until we can realize this paradox, our morality is > > > an agreed upon notion of the good, and we each live up to it or not, > > > like the laws that govern our cultures. > > > > On Apr 14, 7:39 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > That is nice, Molly, but you do realize it is from the movie > > > > Apocalypto. I own that DVD and find the movie very compelling with > > > > much to offer in the examination of humanity. Have you seen the > > > > movie. I found it very thought provoking. > > > > > On Apr 14, 9:58 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hnHwFiUwA&feature=player_embedded > > > > > > On Apr 13, 12:44 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > An interesting read that ties into this thread nicely. > > > > > > > The Virtues of Godlessness: The least religious nations are also the > > > > > > most healthy and > > > > > > successfulhttps://lists.wallawalla.edu/pipermail/caribsda/2009-January/013296.html > > > > > > > While I can't vouch for the accuracy of the paper, I do like what it > > > > > > says. > > > > > > > /e- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
