There are also those children to attempt, often quite > successfully, to seduce an adult.
This is very true. It is also true that some 13 year old girls can make themselves look 21. It's also true that in some cultures a girl at 13 is practically a woman and ready to start having babies. But not in mine, thank you very much. Maybe it's my southern bible belt nature showing but I'm not ready to accept incest either. Dysfunctional may be too mild a term for a family that practices this regularly without shame. People make mistakes and have weak moments but if this is common...something just ain't right. dj On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:04 AM, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would say that would depend on whether or not the child (you didn't > specifiy an age, so I'm assuming a teenager) was traumatized by the > occurrence. There are also those children to attempt, often quite > successfully, to seduce an adult. I'm not making a moral judgment > here one way or the other. Just stating some facts rhetorically. > > On Apr 7, 8:50 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: >> How about the poedophile, who may seduce an unsuspecting mind but may >> not have actually " forced " sex upon a child ? >> >> On Apr 7, 7:34 pm, Michael Berkovits <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Is morality only what we feel is good for us? Or is there a >> >> > > greater good to consider? >> >> > Who here thinks that sexual "immorality," like homosexuality or >> > incest, is immoral? I present the point because I think it beyond >> > obvious that neither is, nor is any brand of sexual >> > "immorality" (except for things like forced sex, which is immoral not >> > because it has anything to do with sex but because it has to do with >> > coercion) but obviously many people in this world disagree. >> >> > On Apr 7, 10:24 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I doubt that many people would see loan interest as immoral. Yet you >> > > see it this way because it goes against what you feel is good for >> > > you. Is morality only what we feel is good for us? Or is there a >> > > greater good to consider? >> >> > > On Apr 7, 2:55 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Frayed knot is an interesting way of putting it. >> >> > > > I think society is more immoral than moral. I think most people agree >> > > > that >> > > > killing some one is wrong. My problem with morality is when some one >> > > > charges excessive interest like in credit cards (my wife and I have >> > > > one -- >> > > > and it is for emergencies only -- then immediately paid off ) >> > > > justifying >> > > > this as sound business when in reality to me it seems like this greed >> > > > is a >> > > > way of slowly killing some one, or Like ( i do have a very good health >> > > > insurance.) when I ended up in the hospital a few years back in the >> > > > USA and >> > > > the bill exceeded $8,000. for 24 hour stay.. basically to get my >> > > > heart beat >> > > > stabilized and watched. I saw 2 doctors for a total of 10 minutes.. >> > > > If I did not have insurance i would have an huge medical bill and to >> > > > pay it >> > > > I would have had to take food of my table to pay the bill. To me if a >> > > > person >> > > > is forced to pay an excessive amount to cover a bill cutting back on >> > > > normal >> > > > expenses to pay it,, the hospital is killing that person. >> >> > > > or by charging excessive rent.. or a myriad of other ways of killing >> > > > some >> > > > one legally .. the slower the better.. >> >> > > > On my savings account I am paid a meager 2.6 % but if I want to borrow >> > > > money >> > > > I have to pay 9.8% If I depended upon that interest for my living again >> > > > corporate greed would be killing me.. and this difference is immoral >> > > > yet it >> > > > is easily justified as business. >> >> > > > I think people many people only want to appear to be moral yet at the >> > > > same >> > > > time want to use business or corporations to hide their immorality. >> >> > > > The only conclusion I can reach is people prefer to be immoral. Just >> > > > talking >> > > > the talk not walking the walk of morality. >> >> > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > Evil reconciled to good? Frayed knot! >> >> > > > > On Apr 5, 10:18 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > Why is evil always so hard to nail down or why does it seem that no >> > > > > > one really wants to identify it but simply dissect the >> > > > > > potentiality of >> > > > > > what it may define. You don't consider anything on the video as >> > > > > > evil >> > > > > > but do recognize it as bad, horrifying and obscene, which basically >> > > > > > covers the face of evil, but rather bypass evil representation to >> > > > > > bring attention to religious aspects, which by the way I agree with >> > > > > > 100%, don't burn your steak here. The dark ages are still upon us >> > > > > > brother and while technology creates a vision of advancement, >> > > > > > attitudes and behaviours create a different picture, the picture of >> > > > > > reality, of good and of evil. I feel we must somehow find resolve >> > > > > > in >> > > > > > the issue of what is evil. We have here a collection of brilliant >> > > > > > minds, myself excluded lol, and so we can somehow be assertive in >> > > > > > our >> > > > > > resolve. I find too many threads wind up as fray ends. Which >> > > > > > reminds >> > > > > > me of a thread that walked into a bar, the bartender said "we don't >> > > > > > serve threads", so the thread walked out, shredded out it's end and >> > > > > > tied itself into a loop, walked back into the bar, the bartender >> > > > > > noticed and immediately and irately said, "damn, I told you we >> > > > > > don't >> > > > > > serve threads in here", the thread responded "I'm not a thread" at >> > > > > > which the bartender scowled, "you are so" and so the thread having >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > last word said "nope, I'm a frayed knot". >> >> > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:26 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > Thanks Slip. I don't really consider what is going on in the >> > > > > > > video >> > > > > > > and what it represents as evil. It is bad, it is horrifying, it >> > > > > > > is >> > > > > > > obscene, but it is also no more than religion battling it's >> > > > > > > fiercest >> > > > > > > foe -- education and enlightenment. On the other hand, religion >> > > > > > > considers education and enlightenment evil -- the work of the >> > > > > > > devil. >> >> > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2:05 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > Thanks for the video gruff, it was overwhelmingly sad but very >> > > > > > > > enlightening as to the seriousness and the dilemma of these >> > > > > > > > people. >> > > > > It >> > > > > > > > takes me back over to the other thread, Does Evil Exist. One >> > > > > > > > only >> > > > > > > > needs to watch this video for the answer. >> >> > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 3:38 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > > Here is a good reason for moral behavior -- call it what you >> > > > > > > > > like >> > > > > (we >> > > > > > > > > are our brother's keeper, the golden rule, do unto others, >> > > > > > > > > etc.) -- >> > > > >http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/02/22/world/asia/1194838044017/cl... >> >> > > > -- >> > > > ( >> > > > ) >> > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >> >> > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
