As my post suggested, Neil, I find CURIOSITY to be one of the purest thing about us. It's the desire to know. And, we all know, knowledge is virtue. It leads us on the path to self - discovery !
However, I agree, the path is akin to a razor's edge. The ' fruits ' of knowledge, as it is felt in our experience, can hold us up and leads us along such warps and twists as to mutilate our very personality, form of being, for a seeming forever. It can make us addicts, in whom the curiosity to know itself disappears. Then, we are no longer pursuing knowledge. We are then driven by the intense desire for mere repeat experiences, to being as just an ' object ' and not the conscious human being we are, when free and in complete control over ourself ! On Apr 10, 5:48 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > I couldn't agree more Molly. Yet anyone trying to intervene faces > chronic problems with bureaucracy that has moved from 'jobsworth' to > nasty behaviour towards complainants as a matter of routine. We still > have the routine use of secrecy preventing problems reaching public > scrutiny. The 'Baby P' scandal rolls on in the UK - today it has been > revealed that police failed the kid because the detective handling the > case moved on and thus there was no prosecution which would have saved > his life 8 months before he died. Cops have been presenting > themselves as 'heroes' until now. The relevant reports remain > unpublished, but are being leaked. We simply cannot trust the people > with authority to investigate. Your recommendations are, of course, > sound. They hit up against a system that is already corrupt. I > believe the debate and action needed is in respect of this problem. > > On 10 Apr, 13:38, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yet even curiosity gets the better of some Vam, as perhaps in > > curiosity killing the cat. One hesitates to use the tool metaphor in > > speaking of sex - yet alas even curiosity may line the pathway to > > depravity. I can't reveal full details of what has been happening > > close to me over the last few years - but this includes the use of > > daughters to attract young males to criminal activity through sex with > > them by Fagin-like parents. > > > On 10 Apr, 05:35, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > " But I can conceive of a much healthier environment where it would > > > possibly be permissible to respond in kind." > > > > You mean : You need it. I too. Let's do it. > > > > Instead, I see in the child's need an opportunity to create a healthy > > > perspective of the matter in him, his thought - world, his life, > > > beyond his need of sex and definitely without the least need in me to > > > benefit / satisfy myself from his need of sex. > > > > Just an alternate view ! > > > > On Apr 9, 11:49 pm, gruff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Perhaps it does matter. Boys and men tend to be more sexually > > > > aggressive than girls and women, though in the adult range of that > > > > aspect, more women are beginning to come out of the timidity closet, > > > > which pleases me to no end. Or it did back when I was still able. > > > > > Nor does a child acting out sexually necessarily indicate a sexual > > > > violation or abuse has taken place. It may simply be a lack of love > > > > in the home that causes that acting out -- though a lack of love can > > > > certainly be considered abuse. Or it could also be a vivid > > > > imagination. There are probably a host of reasons a child would act > > > > out sexually, just as there are a host of reasons children act out in > > > > many other ways. > > > > > As to whether that acting out would justify a response, well, in > > > > today's emotional and irrational mindset many have regarding the > > > > issue, I'd have to say there would be no justified response because it > > > > would do no more than to place the child in the emotional chains of > > > > shame, guilt and despair. But I can conceive of a much healthier > > > > environment where it would possibly be permissible to respond in > > > > kind. It just doesn't exist at this time. > > > > > On Apr 9, 11:03 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > boy or girl, does it matter? children who act out sexually do so > > > > > because they have been violated in this way. But as a question of > > > > > morality, would their approach justify any response to it?- Hide > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
