Not far from my view Slip. I more or less believe in structured realism - how we get at the structures without internal analysis is beyond me - 3 cheers for you and Orn on this one. The loitering likelihood of slaps in the face with wet cod remain, however. I can't see how we can progress without the articulation of fable and dialogue on them (pace Molly). If we don't give space to dreaming up answers and how things might be we won't get any answers we can test in practice.
On 18 Apr, 07:22, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > The calm oean does not happen often but you are right it is awesome > Allan > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bravo, that is exactly what the world needs more of, positive > > energy. It is a rare sight to see the ocean still and smooth as > > glass. I had a similar experience nearly 20 years ago, about day > > break, on the south shore of eastern long island off the Atlantic. > > Early one winter morning as I walked out of a beach front cottage > > awestruck to see the ocean so calm without a ripple, without a sound, > > I had the strangest feeling. Though it was real it seemed like a > > dream. > > > On Apr 17, 12:24 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Slip, years ago i was sailing far off shore and i was becalmed and I had > > > never seen the ocean so smooth and my hand just hung in the ocean, I > > shifted > > > my position and I watched a single drop fall on the smooth surface, I > > > watched the concentric rings flow to the horizon. I came to the > > realization > > > that even the tiniest of drops has a impressive effect on the entirety of > > > the universe. > > > > To this day I try to make every thing I do work to a positive effect. > > There > > > are far to many negative vibrations and I don't want to add to them. > > after > > > all I only have this moment and that is it.. > > > > Allan > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > All well and good Molly, but I'd rather keep the external estranged > > > > until it finds itself in a more harmonious condition within itself. I > > > > don't think many beings entangled in the external are experiencing > > > > true harmony within it. Is it Dante's Inferno or The Garden of > > > > Earthly Delights? > > > > I contribute and donate portions of my internal to the external but > > > > keep it at a safe distance, one that allows some degree of self choice > > > > in matters, resulting in positive results internally. I can let the > > > > world spin but I don't have to let it in. The external core is > > > > gravitational, magnetic, and alluring. Once one intermingles or > > > > becomes entangled within it there is slim chance to none of > > > > extricating oneself from it. This is exhibited by those who reach the > > > > high towers within the external but spiral down in flames regardless > > > > of wealth or fame. Phil Specter is our newest example but perhaps not > > > > as damaging as Madoff. The names are many but the end is the same, > > > > just ask Ghandi. Some may think it a personal responsibility to > > > > engage the external but I remain firm in my distancing from it, not to > > > > be interpreted as reclusive but simply aware that it is like a living > > > > organism that consumes souls and spirits with the most insidious form > > > > of deception. Those that are seduced eventually wonder what happened > > > > and how. Torn from the whirlwind of guile that lured them in the > > > > first place leaves them agape with dismay, as is happening right now > > > > with the global meltdown. In some ways we are forced to take hand in > > > > what occurs externally by imposed laws and societal mores, each with > > > > it's own brand of snares. It is simply the rule to conduct oneself > > > > accordingly in order to remain outside of that realm. This is not a > > > > rant of pessimism but a reality check based on acute awareness of the > > > > external world throughout history. You see I've been there many times > > > > and have accumulated soul knowledge, regardless of what others think > > > > or believe concerning the existence of such. I think you know, > > > > Molly. > > > > > On Apr 17, 8:18 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > There is a greater harmony that comes with the realization that > > > > > everything external is also internal, all is realized through the > > same > > > > > cause, all connected and becoming together. This is a non dual > > > > > perspective. We always intermingle with the core of the external > > > > > because we are that core, our core is that core. Your inner harmony > > > > > now allows the detached viewpoint of the witness on the path to > > > > > infinite harmony. Hombre Milagro rides again. > > > > > > On Apr 16, 2:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > My identity is a peaceful emotion. I definitely have found a > > harmony > > > > > > within, one discovered many years ago and one that I realized I was > > > > > > born with. It is the harmony that allows for my contentment and > > gives > > > > > > me the peace that I am able to relay to others. I'm not sure why > > you > > > > > > perceive a feeling of a wrong rub as a resistance to harmony. You > > > > > > should remember previous posts in previous threads in which I had > > > > > > expressed the ability to attract and acquire things simply by > > focusing > > > > > > and then "letting it be". This demonstrates the harmonious quality > > > > > > within me and without me, one that is a conjoining of self and > > > > > > infinity. All is there and all there is possible. The discord > > > > > > between self and earth is external in origin and stems from my > > > > > > distaste for humanity's use of its resource and bounty. It is an > > > > > > abomination that is an unnerving of my soul and spirit and > > incongruous > > > > > > with my dreams. Conversely, my inner harmony affords me balance > > and > > > > > > removes fear, knowing that I can't be harmed by the external, > > unless I > > > > > > allow myself to intermingle within its core. This is where the door > > > > > > closes and the window opens, out of which I can "view" the > > external. > > > > > > I can open the door at anytime, which I do many a time but proceed > > > > > > with a casual confidence that also exudes from my being. Harmony > > > > > > gives me confidence and ability, to do anything I set out to do, > > that > > > > > > is why some call me Hombre Milagro. > > > > > > But don't worry, I know that I'm still just a mortal human. {;-] > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 8:24 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > world with a resolve > > > > > > > > > that supports my most inner feeling of alienation and a sense > > of > > > > not > > > > > > > > belonging here in a world that has become forlorn of truth. > > > > Sometimes > > > > > > > > I think my purpose is simply voyeurism of earthly activity and > > > > > > > > conduct, the why of which is unknown. > > > > > > > > Looking for truth outside yourself is an exercise in ego. Look, > > > > > > > instead, inside because I think that you have found a harmony > > there. > > > > > > > When you see something in the world that rubs against you in an > > > > > > > aggravating way, it is your own resistance to harmony, usually > > based > > > > > > > in ego. There are parts of us that take our identity in negative > > > > > > > emotion and "not me" This happens again and again until we learn > > to > > > > > > > transcend all that and reside in our harmony. It doesn't mean we > > > > > > > ignore it or deny it. As the Beatles would say, we just let it > > be. > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67J_66hdN-I > > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 8:09 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks fran for the link, it was to the point. What ever is > > truth > > > > or > > > > > > > > reality, we can imagine anything. > > > > > > > > > I certainly don't feel sorry for Specter, a man who had it all, > > a > > > > > > > > brilliant career, gobs of money and a future. Now the dream > > has > > > > come > > > > > > > > to an end. I don't think he'll have a good time in prison. > > The > > > > > > > > unimaginable part is how someone who seems to have it all winds > > up > > > > in > > > > > > > > this quagmire, an inescapable bad dream. Money does something > > to > > > > > > > > people. This is possibly fodder for a good thread on the inner > > > > > > > > workings of the contaminated mind, the insecurity of wealth, > > human > > > > > > > > facades and the deceptions of success. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 10:11 am, frantheman <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 15 Apr., 16:28, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On a global scale I doubt that effecting change is anything > > > > less than > > > > > > > > > > a magnanimous task in light of the ongoing quest for > > > > materialistic > > > > > > > > > > wealth fueled by greed and attained by corruption. I oft > > sit > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > ponder about having no government, no country or world with > > a > > > > resolve > > > > > > > > > > that supports my most inner feeling of alienation and a > > sense > > > > of not > > > > > > > > > > belonging here in a world that has become forlorn of truth. > > > > Sometimes > > > > > > > > > > I think my purpose is simply voyeurism of earthly activity > > and > > > > > > > > > > conduct, the why of which is unknown. If I could leave > > > > tomorrow, not > > > > > > > > > > through death, I'd be gone. I make the best of it and so > > > > better it is > > > > > > > > > > for me but I would still rather be elsewhere with some very > > > > special > > > > > > > > > > people who share purpose, together in Utopia, perhaps in > > that > > > > > > > > > > parallel. Will you join me? > > > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw > > > > > > > > > > The link seems appropriate ;-) (As an interesting bit of > > trivia, > > > > the > > > > > > > > > producer, Phil Spector, was convicted of murder yesterday!) > > > > > > > > > > Francis > > > > -- > > > ( > > > ) > > > I_D Allan > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
