Well according to the Hindu live evolves to end and then reemerge again has to do with Brahma or at least that is what I gathered from what I have read of the Verdi's. Allan
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > So then what is the "Point" of evolution on many levels? Is there an > end, a finality to evolving? > > On Apr 19, 11:37 am, Marco Afonso <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi all! I'm new here... > > > > My answer to this topic is: evolution in many levels, as consequence > > of intertwined order and randomness, also, in many levels. > > > > 'purpose to human existence'? Can we answer this: how much truthness > > we possess about our experience to say what is existence itself? > > > > On Apr 19, 1:12 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Wrong. The line is drawn before you could act being a carrot for the > > > donkey. > > > > > On 19 Apr., 03:48, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Orn is right here - we don't need limiting on thinking and acting > > > > about human relations, whether to self, others or a wider context in > > > > which we might find something better. > > > > > > On 18 Apr, 16:20, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Puh, I'm glad you're leaving me this one. Points are never tools > that > > > > > produce the desired solution. It is the "or" that opens up the > > > > > fixation and adds (*) to the dotted line. But if it makes you feel > > > > > better, cross the present perfect tense out of your grammatical > > > > > vocabulary. ;-) > > > > > > > On 18 Apr., 16:05, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > On this one I go with Molly. The topic of the thread is the > > > > > > problem...in no way a useful tool for 'solution(s)'. > > > > > > Not only is it couched in inacurate dialectics, its very nature > is to > > > > > > limit the issue to a view that has always had an obvious result. > > > > > > > > On Apr 18, 6:31 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not far from my view Slip. I more or less believe in > structured > > > > > > > realism - how we get at the structures without internal > analysis is > > > > > > > beyond me - 3 cheers for you and Orn on this one. The > loitering > > > > > > > likelihood of slaps in the face with wet cod remain, however. > I can't > > > > > > > see how we can progress without the articulation of fable and > dialogue > > > > > > > on them (pace Molly). If we don't give space to dreaming up > answers > > > > > > > and how things might be we won't get any answers we can test in > > > > > > > practice. > > > > > > > > > On 18 Apr, 07:22, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The calm oean does not happen often but you are right it is > awesome > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Bravo, that is exactly what the world needs more of, > positive > > > > > > > > > energy. It is a rare sight to see the ocean still and > smooth as > > > > > > > > > glass. I had a similar experience nearly 20 years ago, > about day > > > > > > > > > break, on the south shore of eastern long island off the > Atlantic. > > > > > > > > > Early one winter morning as I walked out of a beach front > cottage > > > > > > > > > awestruck to see the ocean so calm without a ripple, > without a sound, > > > > > > > > > I had the strangest feeling. Though it was real it seemed > like a > > > > > > > > > dream. > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 12:24 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Slip, years ago i was sailing far off shore and i was > becalmed and I had > > > > > > > > > > never seen the ocean so smooth and my hand just hung in > the ocean, I > > > > > > > > > shifted > > > > > > > > > > my position and I watched a single drop fall on the > smooth surface, I > > > > > > > > > > watched the concentric rings flow to the horizon. I came > to the > > > > > > > > > realization > > > > > > > > > > that even the tiniest of drops has a impressive effect on > the entirety of > > > > > > > > > > the universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > To this day I try to make every thing I do work to a > positive effect. > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > are far to many negative vibrations and I don't want to > add to them. > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > all I only have this moment and that is it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Slip Disc < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > All well and good Molly, but I'd rather keep the > external estranged > > > > > > > > > > > until it finds itself in a more harmonious condition > within itself. I > > > > > > > > > > > don't think many beings entangled in the external are > experiencing > > > > > > > > > > > true harmony within it. Is it Dante's Inferno or The > Garden of > > > > > > > > > > > Earthly Delights? > > > > > > > > > > > I contribute and donate portions of my internal to the > external but > > > > > > > > > > > keep it at a safe distance, one that allows some degree > of self choice > > > > > > > > > > > in matters, resulting in positive results internally. > I can let the > > > > > > > > > > > world spin but I don't have to let it in. The external > core is > > > > > > > > > > > gravitational, magnetic, and alluring. Once one > intermingles or > > > > > > > > > > > becomes entangled within it there is slim chance to > none of > > > > > > > > > > > extricating oneself from it. This is exhibited by > those who reach the > > > > > > > > > > > high towers within the external but spiral down in > flames regardless > > > > > > > > > > > of wealth or fame. Phil Specter is our newest example > but perhaps not > > > > > > > > > > > as damaging as Madoff. The names are many but the end > is the same, > > > > > > > > > > > just ask Ghandi. Some may think it a personal > responsibility to > > > > > > > > > > > engage the external but I remain firm in my distancing > from it, not to > > > > > > > > > > > be interpreted as reclusive but simply aware that it is > like a living > > > > > > > > > > > organism that consumes souls and spirits with the most > insidious form > > > > > > > > > > > of deception. Those that are seduced eventually wonder > what happened > > > > > > > > > > > and how. Torn from the whirlwind of guile that lured > them in the > > > > > > > > > > > first place leaves them agape with dismay, as is > happening right now > > > > > > > > > > > with the global meltdown. In some ways we are forced > to take hand in > > > > > > > > > > > what occurs externally by imposed laws and societal > mores, each with > > > > > > > > > > > it's own brand of snares. It is simply the rule to > conduct oneself > > > > > > > > > > > accordingly in order to remain outside of that realm. > This is not a > > > > > > > > > > > rant of pessimism but a reality check based on acute > awareness of the > > > > > > > > > > > external world throughout history. You see I've been > there many times > > > > > > > > > > > and have accumulated soul knowledge, regardless of what > others think > > > > > > > > > > > or believe concerning the existence of such. I think > you know, > > > > > > > > > > > Molly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 8:18 am, Molly Brogan < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a greater harmony that comes with the > realization that > > > > > > > > > > > > everything external is also internal, all is realized > through the > > > > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > > > > > cause, all connected and becoming together. This is > a non dual > > > > > > > > > > > > perspective. We always intermingle with the core of > the external > > > > > > > > > > > > because we are that core, our core is that core. > Your inner harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > now allows the detached viewpoint of the witness on > the path to > > > > > > > > > > > > infinite harmony. Hombre Milagro rides again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 2:00 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My identity is a peaceful emotion. I definitely > have found a > > > > > > > > > harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > within, one discovered many years ago and one that > I realized I was > > > > > > > > > > > > > born with. It is the harmony that allows for my > contentment and > > > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > > > me the peace that I am able to relay to others. > I'm not sure why > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > perceive a feeling of a wrong rub as a resistance > to harmony. You > > > > > > > > > > > > > should remember previous posts in previous threads > in which I had > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressed the ability to attract and acquire things > simply by > > > > > > > > > focusing > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then "letting it be". This demonstrates the > harmonious quality > > > > > > > > > > > > > within me and without me, one that is a conjoining > of self and > > > > > > > > > > > > > infinity. All is there and all there is possible. > The discord > > > > > > > > > > > > > between self and earth is external in origin and > stems from my > > > > > > > > > > > > > distaste for humanity's use of its resource and > bounty. It is an > > > > > > > > > > > > > abomination that is an unnerving of my soul and > spirit and > > > > > > > > > incongruous > > > > > > > > > > > > > with my dreams. Conversely, my inner harmony > affords me balance > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > removes fear, knowing that I can't be harmed by the > external, > > > > > > > > > unless I > > > > > > > > > > > > > allow myself to intermingle within its core. This > is where the door > > > > > > > > > > > > > closes and the window opens, out of which I can > "view" the > > > > > > > > > external. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can open the door at anytime, which I do many a > time but proceed > > > > > > > > > > > > > with a casual confidence that also exudes from my > being. Harmony > > > > > > > > > > > > > gives me confidence and ability, to do anything I > set out to do, > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > is why some call me Hombre Milagro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But don't worry, I know that I'm still just a > mortal human. {;-] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 16, 8:24 am, Molly Brogan < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > world with a resolve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that supports my most inner feeling of > alienation and a sense > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > belonging here in a world that has become > forlorn of truth. > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think my purpose is simply voyeurism of > earthly activity and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conduct, the why of which is unknown. > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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