With age comes wisdom and so with wisdom comes philosophy. As each of us gropes with the whys pertaining to our individual experiences, philosophy takes a leading role in determining the issues that culminated our present persona. Emotions are complex and many times reactionary, not always pliable in philosophical terms. Our understanding of love is still an on going research project spanning many years, millions perhaps. Life is a learning experience, much of it learning about ourselves within a world of ourselves in the form of others. Sometimes we can learn about ourselves through the lives of others and other times find confusion and chaos among those around us. We can only be who we are and attempts to align the rest of the world with our individuality can be a frustrating and fruitless venture, for some as you say, biologically unattainable. I find personal peace, love and freedom to be the most valuable aspects of life. It is only after personally achieving those aspects that I can move about the world feeling a part of the whole. Without personal peace, love and freedom we are just drifting about in a vast ocean without direction, without knowing. All this affects my well being, the knowing where I am, anchored and secure within my moorings, ability to navigate more precisely in the world.
On Apr 22, 10:05 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > In a sense your right Slip Disc, however, what I meant by genetics is > accumulated hereditary characteristics. Some people are biologically > bipolar, depressed, anxious, etc. I've witnessed such examples. > Inability to adhere to common philosophical viewpoints because they > are too uncontrollably emotional. Forced to seek interpersonal and > personal therapy, usually remedied with prescriptions. Yes a person > does strengthen themselves emotionally over time. A person also > learns to curb their love tendencies, but it all happens out of > experience in one's life. I believe that I myself, which I dislike > associating myself in examples, I don't want to appear narcissistic, > but oh well. I myself from a very young age remember wondering why > people handle things so emotionally, especially since nothing in their > power can change the traumatic element. I've always had a what's done > is done train of thought; often appearing cold and heartless for not > crying over the loss of a loved one. I don't like to put on shows. > Maybe it is a facade of strength which I am building, for when I am > left alone in thought, I will and do cry because it hurts. I am > rambling. > > <I wouldn't agree with your genetic > <assertion, as philosophy can be learned, basic reasoning can be > <taught. > > However the point I am trying to make is, philosophy can rule over > love, but only if one constructs that wall. Some are not capable of > doing so, mental illness or not. > > It seems everyone that chooses philosophy over love has been hurt to > some degree, thus the psychological development of, "I am not going to > let the happen again." > > Philosophers are gentle seekers of solutions to man's woes. That's > from the heart. > > On Apr 21, 11:16 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Rosey, I think we need a definitive of "heart" which obviously in this > > context is not the pumping organ. I don't think Matthijs is saying > > the philosophical mind "rules over the heart" but more so that it can, > > through reasoning, dismantle the sensitivities that affect the > > "heart" (which I would venture to guess is the emotion of love). I > > can, if I choose to, philosophically reason that love is a negative > > aspect of life and therefore overrule or negate any love stimuli and > > stop the release of dopamine and norepinephrine. Love can simply be a > > craving or a strong compulsion vulnerable to the reasoning of > > philosophy. > > As an example; Upon seeing a structure collapse, let's say, I can sit > > in a chair relaxed while others are jumping about in panic. > > Philosophy tells me there is nothing I can do about it so why bother > > with the emotions, while I'm being berated with "how could you just > > sit there?" Philosophy ruled over my heart in that sense. I guess it > > has something to do with the fact that I don't get teary eyed during > > emotional movies because I know it is just an act and not real, I may > > even laugh. > > > Now I wish there was a way to control love and feelings of > > > > love, however philosophical a person may be. It's not the philosophy > > > that controls the mind; it's actually how emotionally intelligent one > > > may be. It's genetic.<<<Rosey > > > There is a way to control love and feeling of love. We must take the > > "time" to examine the nature of love, the differing aspects of it and > > the interpretation of such in order to discern the validity of it so > > as to avoid undo stress upon the "heart" resulting from mere > > "infatuation". There is a fine line between "love, need and want", > > therefore we need to slow down our emotional process, the "impulse", > > in order to evaluate truth. It is not about "mind control" as much as > > it is philosophical guidance. I wouldn't agree with your genetic > > assertion, as philosophy can be learned, basic reasoning can be > > taught. > > Emotional intelligence of the "self" is good and a powerful tool. > > > On Apr 20, 7:48 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A philosophical mind rules over heart? I strongly beg to differ. > > > Philosophy comes from the heart. Come to think of it, love itself is > > > neurological. Studies have shown certain regions of the brain are > > > severely affected when it comes to love, and thoughts of love. I can > > > get technical, however find it unnecessary. Philosophy comes from a > > > highly developed analytical subconscious whose inquisitions of > > > elements are constant. An out of the box approach to drawing > > > conclusions from our own experiences and understanding. Philosophers > > > make sense most of the time because they tally and reason. It's like > > > arithmetic, if 1+1=2 then we have provided ourselves with a > > > solution. At least to me it's that way; mathemtically inundated > > > here. Now I wish there was a way to control love and feelings of > > > love, however philosophical a person may be. It's not the philosophy > > > that controls the mind; it's actually how emotionally intelligent one > > > may be. It's genetic. > > > > Just my thoughts on the matter, > > > Rosey > > > > "Jerry Springer's thought of the day is as worthy as a hair growing > > > out of mole." (Felt it was necessary to state that :P) > > > > On Apr 20, 7:52 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Heh you may be right, we can certianly though both endulge in our > > > > emotions whilst being able to 'raltionalise't then at the same time. > > > > > I have been married for 20 years come next summer, I'll be 40 years old > > > > (just abut) whne that happens. So doing the maths you'll see that I > > > > married at the young age of 20, and my wife is 3 years younger than > > > > me. > > > > > We are very much in love, in fact if anything the emotion grows > > > > stronger the longer we are together. For me, I just couldn't image > > > > life without my wife. So how has this effected me? > > > > > In soooo many countless ways, I am (in part) my love for me wife, my > > > > kids my siblings, my parents, my freinds, and even my fellow man. > > > > > Perhaps another question could be how can we have a sense of Self, > > > > without our emotions(any of them)? > > > > > On 20 Apr, 12:41, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello to all, > > > > > > I do not know if this is the right place is to ask this question. > > > > > Because I have the feeling that philosophers let their mind rule over > > > > > their heart. I will ask it anyway. > > > > > > How does Love affect our (your) self-being? > > > > > > Our live on a thin red line, > > > > > Matthijs- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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