An ambitious man strives to become what he admires in others. He can only admire what he sees and if he is only exposed to a certain kind of success that is probably what he will wish to become. We are shaped by our desires and also by what others desire for us. I've seen many a ne'er do well do a 180 after getting married or having a child. Responsibility changes a man. It changes his identity.
dj On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > Automaton's by social subscription? I would guess that there is some > degree of identity that is dictated by social norms. Then there is > the cultural norm as well in which a child's identity is most often > prearranged without room for personal development. Toss in ethnicity > and you have nearly obliterated the chance for a person to seek > personal identity from within. > > On Apr 25, 10:32 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think most of the people of the world are automatons. Their identity >> is what they're 'supposed to be'. >> The wannabes are obviously driven by something other than the unique >> self. >> I believe conformity is the purpose of the multi-media. >> >> The oddballs (like some of the people around here) who do recognize >> their 'self', I would think are the 'identified self'. The true self >> set the purpose to which the Life force was directed. That which they >> are is that which they chose to be. >> >> peace & Love >> >> On Apr 25, 10:27 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I find that many people regardless of their social status, socio- >> > enconomic level or general upbringing sometimes identify with that >> > which they are not. Some call them a "wannabe". Whatever the label >> > whatever the alter ego it still remains the same, people relating with >> > that which they are not. >> >> > Actor extraordinaire Daniel Day-Lewis once said, >> > "I came from the educated middle class but I identified with the >> > working classes. Those were the people I looked up to. The lads whose >> > fathers worked on the docks or in shipping yards or were shopkeepers. >> > I knew that I wasn't part of that world, but I was intrigued by it. >> > They had a different way of communicating. People who delight in >> > conversation are often using that as a means to not say what is on >> > their minds. When I became interested in theater, the work I admired >> > was being done by working-class writers. It was often about the >> > inarticulate. I later saw that same thing in Robert De Niro's early >> > work - it was the most sublime struggle of a man trying to express >> > himself. There was such poetry in that for me." >> >> > Are we who we are or are we that which we identify with, or possibly a >> > combination of both? >> >> > Personally I think that in someway we all identify with specific >> > things in the external world that we feel suits our personal desire, >> > want or need and then by adopting that identity we somehow learn to be >> > that which we identify with, unless it is beyond our capacity to >> > become that. >> >> > Is that a distraction from who we "really" are? Is the constant >> > bombardment from multi-media a detriment to the development of the >> > true self? >> >> > Do we waste much of our time in youth attempting to emulate that which >> > we are intrigued by only to realize later in life the reality of who >> > we really are? > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
