women do pretty good with it too...;-^)...i would like to add that, imo, introspecting is one of the better passtimes a person indulge in, combined with the setting, reaching and maintaining a high personal moral code. if one is surrounded by less-than-moral associates, they may seldom experience attributes that they admire, but this in no way should deter the desire for self growth. development of an attuned moral consciousness is a singular endeavor, that has positive community attributes, ime.
On Apr 26, 9:37 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > An ambitious man strives to become what he admires in others. He can > only admire what he sees and if he is only exposed to a certain kind > of success that is probably what he will wish to become. We are > shaped by our desires and also by what others desire for us. I've > seen many a ne'er do well do a 180 after getting married or having a > child. Responsibility changes a man. It changes his identity. > > dj > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Automaton's by social subscription? I would guess that there is some > > degree of identity that is dictated by social norms. Then there is > > the cultural norm as well in which a child's identity is most often > > prearranged without room for personal development. Toss in ethnicity > > and you have nearly obliterated the chance for a person to seek > > personal identity from within. > > > On Apr 25, 10:32 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think most of the people of the world are automatons. Their identity > >> is what they're 'supposed to be'. > >> The wannabes are obviously driven by something other than the unique > >> self. > >> I believe conformity is the purpose of the multi-media. > > >> The oddballs (like some of the people around here) who do recognize > >> their 'self', I would think are the 'identified self'. The true self > >> set the purpose to which the Life force was directed. That which they > >> are is that which they chose to be. > > >> peace & Love > > >> On Apr 25, 10:27 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > I find that many people regardless of their social status, socio- > >> > enconomic level or general upbringing sometimes identify with that > >> > which they are not. Some call them a "wannabe". Whatever the label > >> > whatever the alter ego it still remains the same, people relating with > >> > that which they are not. > > >> > Actor extraordinaire Daniel Day-Lewis once said, > >> > "I came from the educated middle class but I identified with the > >> > working classes. Those were the people I looked up to. The lads whose > >> > fathers worked on the docks or in shipping yards or were shopkeepers. > >> > I knew that I wasn't part of that world, but I was intrigued by it. > >> > They had a different way of communicating. People who delight in > >> > conversation are often using that as a means to not say what is on > >> > their minds. When I became interested in theater, the work I admired > >> > was being done by working-class writers. It was often about the > >> > inarticulate. I later saw that same thing in Robert De Niro's early > >> > work - it was the most sublime struggle of a man trying to express > >> > himself. There was such poetry in that for me." > > >> > Are we who we are or are we that which we identify with, or possibly a > >> > combination of both? > > >> > Personally I think that in someway we all identify with specific > >> > things in the external world that we feel suits our personal desire, > >> > want or need and then by adopting that identity we somehow learn to be > >> > that which we identify with, unless it is beyond our capacity to > >> > become that. > > >> > Is that a distraction from who we "really" are? Is the constant > >> > bombardment from multi-media a detriment to the development of the > >> > true self? > > >> > Do we waste much of our time in youth attempting to emulate that which > >> > we are intrigued by only to realize later in life the reality of who > >> > we really are?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
