True, Molly. eros is something that happens to us, a feeling, a force, that is what I find most people call Love. As you say, agape is the key to a long term relationship. The kind of Love that makes marriages is not a feeling, its not something that just happens without effort. Its not a state. Its the culmanation of day to day actions and behaviours, and careful regard. The result of this is the only thing worth being a part of.
On May 1, 8:17 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > I think that love is an expression of spirit (I know you are all > surprised.) We are all born with this connection and ability. Our > love for others and life allows this expression. We loose ourselves > in the beloved, meaning that we find our connection to everything and > all that is. This is where eros and agape meet. To loose ourselves > in eros, we open the way for agape, both feeling the same. We > surrender to it to sustain it, giving up our egos to eros. When we > struggle with it, when our egos step in and our feelings and thoughts > that we are separate, that we need more or have less than we would > like, agape is gone and the struggle is left to eros, whose sensual > demands cannot sustain that feeling of freedom and unlimitedness. > When we come at love through eros only, the thrill is quickly gone > with the pleasures of the senses. As much as we would like - sex > cannot go on forever, it takes more to sustain life. So, eros > requires agape for rapport with the infinite nature of love. It is > there, always, all around us, within us, between us. It can enliven > the senses and all other aspects of being. We get there, to "true > love" through eros, but not without agape. > > On Apr 29, 10:31 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > And no,this isn't a wide open generic question. I'm not interested in agape > > here, this is strictly for eros. > > > I'm a hopeless romantic and serial monogamist. I fall in love hard and > > quickly if I find someone worthy of such, put my all Into maintaining long > > term romantic relationships, despite my personal challenges, and against > > all logic remain a believer in the concept of a happily ever after > > relationship despite a spotty relationship record and a generally rational > > to cynical worldview on every other topic. Love is such a basic human > > instinct to me. > > > Perspectives on Love vary drastically though, and I've heard a surprisingly > > diverse number of them recently. So, I'm putting the question out to each > > of you, not as a debate, but as an invitation to expound what your > > perception of the nature of Love is, in your life. There are no wrong > > answers, so have at it.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
