" A math problem can't be half-solved." Now that, though I perfectly understand the sense, Rosey, is debatable. Why can't the glass be perceived as half - full ? The perception pre - exists ; it just requires one perceiver to own it !
I am saying that Tinker is well within his Right to Freedom To Search For The Key, wherever ! I am only wary of his missionary zeal, the one which often makes people go mad with rage or disappointment ( are you with us or against ? why are you not on this ? ) because they cannot help becoming emotionally judgemental or distraught. I'm sure though, Tinker is better than that. On May 5, 8:09 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > My point in saying that men are evil was a generalization not towards > a specific gender, but towards the idea that as long as negative > aspects such as paranoia, jealousy and evil exist a collective > mentality will be difficult to attain. We can't change the way > certain people think, but we can prosecute them for their wrongdoings > or at least try. In no way is evil excusable, but the same goes for > in no way is evil avoidable. We can offer the idea of kindness, we > can try to instill it, but ultimately the id exists. Some may be able > to control their id and minimize it, while others will focus and > expand on it. Can we control that? > > A mother had two sons. She raised each with the same care and > upbringing. She also taught them unconditional love, respect, > spirituality and kindness. However, one of the brothers raped and > murdered women. Why did he turn out this way? An idea similar to > what you call collective mentality was instilled into him, yet he > deviated away from it and condemned himself to a life evil. What > happened? > > If your quest is to find a key, you need to explore all neighborhoods, > you can't skip the slums and expect to find it. You need to analyze > everything from all angles, even the hard ones. A math problem can't > be half-solved. > > On May 4, 10:35 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I can't help but remain focused on the introduction. Rosey declared > > that "men" are evil? Is that "gender" specific or a generalization of > > humanity? I just can't see Rosey making such a statement. Could you > > provide me with a reference to such argument? I guess I must have > > missed that one. > > > On May 4, 4:58 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Evil. > > > I’ve argued with Rosey about saying men are evil. It’s too easy an > > > excuse to go kill somebody. > > > > What I do think is Evil is a product of man, not some devious force or > > > that born in sin crap. > > > > The actions of men, the ‘Way it is Now’ in Society allows for the > > > creation of an entity of Evil. Oppressive government and corporate > > > greed are two examples of Evil that is simply the product of man. > > > I know there are a lot of people who would read that and say, “Yea, > > > I’m glad I live in the U.S.”; I hang my head and cry. Government is > > > the many headed beast of Revelations and the U.S. is the main brain. > > > > I believe it safe to say that 90% of the people in the U.S. (probably > > > more in the rest of the world) are good humanitarian people. > > > Today, how many innocent people will die at the hands of U.S. forces, > > > hundreds, maybe a thousand or more? I know we only hear about those > > > that they are not able to keep hidden from the media. > > > Although the people don’t condone the action they are the support of > > > the system. This is the manifestation of Evil as the product of man. > > > > Why?, because we are going the ‘Wrong Way’. > > > To turn inward is wonderful and fine for the self improvement of the > > > individual. That it allows escapism from reality, the results of our > > > supportive action, and allows for the Evil to be done in our name, is > > > Wrong. > > > “I’m improving myself; it’s all I can do; it’s not my fault.” No > > > fault, it is the ‘Way’ of Society that we need to change. > > > > I believe the power we access by turning inward, to improve ourselves, > > > must be recognized in another way to improve the lot of mankind and > > > stop our creating Evil. > > > We turn in to access our higher power, collective intelligence or > > > whichever of hundreds of different explanations we choose for the one > > > thing on Earth that all of mankind have in common. > > > Me Me Mine! It’s my personal spirit! It’s my Love! No, it’s Brahman! > > > Oh you fools, it’s the spirit of Jesus Christ! You mystical muff > > > heads, it’s nothing but a funny feeling caused by our subconscious. > > > > It is a ‘thing’ in our mind. Until we develop a common recognition of > > > ‘it’, we will continue to spawn Evil. > > > > peace & Love- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
