I agree with your view, entirely.
On May 5, 9:41 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
> I only stated the search because Tinker said we should ignore the
> negative aspects on the collective mentality post. How can we achieve
> a collective mentality if we ignore such an important factor.
>
> On May 4, 11:57 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > " A math problem can't be half-solved."
>
> > Now that, though I perfectly understand the sense, Rosey, is
> > debatable. Why can't the glass be perceived as half - full ? The
> > perception pre - exists ; it just requires one perceiver to own it !
>
> > I am saying that Tinker is well within his Right to Freedom To Search
> > For The Key, wherever !
>
> > I am only wary of his missionary zeal, the one which often makes
> > people go mad with rage or disappointment ( are you with us or
> > against ? why are you not on this ? ) because they cannot help
> > becoming emotionally judgemental or distraught.
>
> > I'm sure though, Tinker is better than that.
>
> > On May 5, 8:09 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > My point in saying that men are evil was a generalization not towards
> > > a specific gender, but towards the idea that as long as negative
> > > aspects such as paranoia, jealousy and evil exist a collective
> > > mentality will be difficult to attain. We can't change the way
> > > certain people think, but we can prosecute them for their wrongdoings
> > > or at least try. In no way is evil excusable, but the same goes for
> > > in no way is evil avoidable. We can offer the idea of kindness, we
> > > can try to instill it, but ultimately the id exists. Some may be able
> > > to control their id and minimize it, while others will focus and
> > > expand on it. Can we control that?
>
> > > A mother had two sons. She raised each with the same care and
> > > upbringing. She also taught them unconditional love, respect,
> > > spirituality and kindness. However, one of the brothers raped and
> > > murdered women. Why did he turn out this way? An idea similar to
> > > what you call collective mentality was instilled into him, yet he
> > > deviated away from it and condemned himself to a life evil. What
> > > happened?
>
> > > If your quest is to find a key, you need to explore all neighborhoods,
> > > you can't skip the slums and expect to find it. You need to analyze
> > > everything from all angles, even the hard ones. A math problem can't
> > > be half-solved.
>
> > > On May 4, 10:35 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I can't help but remain focused on the introduction. Rosey declared
> > > > that "men" are evil? Is that "gender" specific or a generalization of
> > > > humanity? I just can't see Rosey making such a statement. Could you
> > > > provide me with a reference to such argument? I guess I must have
> > > > missed that one.
>
> > > > On May 4, 4:58 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Evil.
> > > > > I’ve argued with Rosey about saying men are evil. It’s too easy an
> > > > > excuse to go kill somebody.
>
> > > > > What I do think is Evil is a product of man, not some devious force or
> > > > > that born in sin crap.
>
> > > > > The actions of men, the ‘Way it is Now’ in Society allows for the
> > > > > creation of an entity of Evil. Oppressive government and corporate
> > > > > greed are two examples of Evil that is simply the product of man.
> > > > > I know there are a lot of people who would read that and say, “Yea,
> > > > > I’m glad I live in the U.S.”; I hang my head and cry. Government is
> > > > > the many headed beast of Revelations and the U.S. is the main brain.
>
> > > > > I believe it safe to say that 90% of the people in the U.S. (probably
> > > > > more in the rest of the world) are good humanitarian people.
> > > > > Today, how many innocent people will die at the hands of U.S. forces,
> > > > > hundreds, maybe a thousand or more? I know we only hear about those
> > > > > that they are not able to keep hidden from the media.
> > > > > Although the people don’t condone the action they are the support of
> > > > > the system. This is the manifestation of Evil as the product of man.
>
> > > > > Why?, because we are going the ‘Wrong Way’.
> > > > > To turn inward is wonderful and fine for the self improvement of the
> > > > > individual. That it allows escapism from reality, the results of our
> > > > > supportive action, and allows for the Evil to be done in our name, is
> > > > > Wrong.
> > > > > “I’m improving myself; it’s all I can do; it’s not my fault.” No
> > > > > fault, it is the ‘Way’ of Society that we need to change.
>
> > > > > I believe the power we access by turning inward, to improve ourselves,
> > > > > must be recognized in another way to improve the lot of mankind and
> > > > > stop our creating Evil.
> > > > > We turn in to access our higher power, collective intelligence or
> > > > > whichever of hundreds of different explanations we choose for the one
> > > > > thing on Earth that all of mankind have in common.
> > > > > Me Me Mine! It’s my personal spirit! It’s my Love! No, it’s Brahman!
> > > > > Oh you fools, it’s the spirit of Jesus Christ! You mystical muff
> > > > > heads, it’s nothing but a funny feeling caused by our subconscious.
>
> > > > > It is a ‘thing’ in our mind. Until we develop a common recognition of
> > > > > ‘it’, we will continue to spawn Evil.
>
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