I rather like them half solved, Neil. As an atheist, mathematical mysteries and
Love are the closest things to God I have!
I filled notebooks on Fermat as a child. I still hold that one as a favorite.
The proof is clunky, the theorem, elegant.
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Actually, maths problems are often just about half-solved. Fermat's
last theorem was a case in point, needing Wiles to put together
various pieces of the jigsaw from different parts of maths. I don't
see evil as a kind of devil - rather as something in pieces -
mechanisms and networks we need to understand better - perhaps even
operating in harmonics. Exploitative attitudes seem key.
On 7 May, 00:53, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why should the answer have to come to you when the answer is already
> here? You want a personal one on one? You need a face to face?
>
> On May 6, 6:12 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On the contrary, I still believe in a higher power. There has to be
> > something out there. A link of some sort. I see many possibilities
> > and they do include a source of our creation. I am not atheist. But
> > if I keep digging holes won't I eventually fall into one? The answer
> > will come to me one day. But it will be my choice.
>
> > On May 6, 4:18 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Dear Lady, I would think you kept better mental notes than that.
> > > The 'thing' in the mind is the connection to the higher power that
> > > gives credence to the personal religion. It is the 'thing' which I
> > > hope to make known as the common link of mankind instead of the
> > > personal justifier/glorification.
>
> > > But I also know that anything which is contrary to ones personal
> > > religion activates the fear of the unknown and disconnects the line of
> > > thought and makes one deny or ignore the idea being presented.
>
> > > I have said, in different ways, that the higher power would be the
> > > influencing element of change. The disconnect you have had with the
> > > dogmatic religion has also disconnected the belief that there is any
> > > higher power capable of such influence.
>
> > > I'm sorry the truth upsets your stomach :-)
>
> > > peace & love
>
> > > On May 5, 10:07 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Duhh, which way do I go doc? Which way?
>
> > > > That "thing" in my mind eh, which one? There are many.
> > > > If you are talking about the misinterpretation of my take on "ev*l"
> > > > posts...my whole point was that when there are leaders who promote
> > > > wrongdoings against humanity, they are going to have abiding
> > > > followers. How shall we collectively influence the leaders, who
> > > > negatively impact their patrons, to change when their ambition is
> > > > fueled by power and greed? I refrained from using the "e" word. I
> > > > deserve two stars. But maybe I don't want the two stars. The re-
> > > > opening of this subject is actually puke inducing.
>
> > > > On May 5, 8:10 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I might think the misinterpretations are intentional fun.
> > > > > I don't think there will be any smegma online.
> > > > > Love is great Love is good
> > > > > I only Love you like I should
> > > > > All the brothers and sisters too
> > > > > This is why I do what I do
>
> > > > > Could you tell me how to describe the 'thing' in your mind?
> > > > > A simple definition/meaning pointing at 'it' without dogma.
> > > > > I'll understand if that's too tough for you :-)
>
> > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > On May 5, 7:04 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Ok let's not get too goey now. People are catching on to this word
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > LOVE. Some of my posts have already been misinterpreted. I can see
> > > > > > the headlines now...Mind's Eye sparks unadulterated interests!
>
> > > > > > As far as seeing the possibilities, yes I am being very observant.
> > > > > > Taking mental notes. Thank you.
>
> > > > > > On May 5, 6:51 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Many skilled people have said that something couldn't be fixed
> > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > did.
> > > > > > > Yes my dear you are very positive in your negative view of our
> > > > > > > higher
> > > > > > > power being able to affect someone.
> > > > > > > Married faithfully at 18 and you've seen it all? That's
> > > > > > > definitely a
> > > > > > > Brooklyn attitude :-)
> > > > > > > What I'm talking about would be like planting a seed for a
> > > > > > > revelation.
> > > > > > > I'll be your handyman but I ain't no Mr :-)
> > > > > > > I pick on you because I do Love you and want you to see a
> > > > > > > wonderful
> > > > > > > possibility.
>
> > > > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > > > On May 5, 5:46 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You can't fix a twitch Tink. I don't want to think NEGATIVELY,
> > > > > > > > as you
> > > > > > > > say. I am a very positive person. But I don't have to prove
> > > > > > > > anything. Far from a sheltered life, I grew up in Brooklyn,
> > > > > > > > NY. I've
> > > > > > > > seen everything. Thus my callous ways. Fact is fact. You can't
> > > > > > > > change people. They have to want to change and do it
> > > > > > > > themselves.
> > > > > > > > Soemtimes they are hit with a revelation, but it usually
> > > > > > > > happens in
> > > > > > > > jail, after the fact. I still love you Mr. Handyman. :) Stop
> > > > > > > > picking on me.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 5, 3:31 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I have never said to ignore anything. I have asked you to
> > > > > > > > > focus on
> > > > > > > > > something other than the negative.
> > > > > > > > > I have searched for just about twice your Life span my dear.
> > > > > > > > > I've been
> > > > > > > > > from the top to the bottom with eyes wide open. You have
> > > > > > > > > lived a
> > > > > > > > > sheltered Life and the closest you can come to understanding
> > > > > > > > > a sick
> > > > > > > > > mofo is to call them evil. I know how they work and I know
> > > > > > > > > that they
> > > > > > > > > have the same connection in their mind that we all do. That
> > > > > > > > > is the key
> > > > > > > > > to changing them.
>
> > > > > > > > > peace & love
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 5, 12:41 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I only stated the search because Tinker said we should
> > > > > > > > > > ignore the
> > > > > > > > > > negative aspects on the collective mentality post. How can
> > > > > > > > > > we achieve
> > > > > > > > > > a collective mentality if we ignore such an important
> > > > > > > > > > factor.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 11:57 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > " A math problem can't be half-solved."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Now that, though I perfectly understand the sense, Rosey,
> > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > debatable. Why can't the glass be perceived as half -
> > > > > > > > > > > full ? The
> > > > > > > > > > > perception pre - exists ; it just requires one perceiver
> > > > > > > > > > > to own it !
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I am saying that Tinker is well within his Right to
> > > > > > > > > > > Freedom To Search
> > > > > > > > > > > For The Key, wherever !
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I am only wary of his missionary zeal, the one which
> > > > > > > > > > > often makes
> > > > > > > > > > > people go mad with rage or disappointment ( are you with
> > > > > > > > > > > us or
> > > > > > > > > > > against ? why are you not on this ? ) because they cannot
> > > > > > > > > > > help
> > > > > > > > > > > becoming emotionally judgemental or distraught.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure though, Tinker is better than that.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 5, 8:09 am, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > My point in saying that men are evil was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > generalization not towards
> > > > > > > > > > > > a specific gender, but towards the idea that as long as
> > > > > > > > > > > > negative
> > > > > > > > > > > > aspects such as paranoia, jealousy and evil exist a
> > > > > > > > > > > > collective
> > > > > > > > > > > > mentality will be difficult to attain. We can't change
> > > > > > > > > > > > the way
> > > > > > > > > > > > certain people think, but we can prosecute them for
> > > > > > > > > > > > their wrongdoings
> > > > > > > > > > > > or at least try. In no way is evil excusable, but the
> > > > > > > > > > > > same goes for
> > > > > > > > > > > > in no way is evil avoidable. We can offer the idea of
> > > > > > > > > > > > kindness, we
> > > > > > > > > > > > can try to instill it, but ultimately the id exists.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Some may be able
> > > > > > > > > > > > to control their id and minimize it, while others will
> > > > > > > > > > > > focus and
> > > > > > > > > > > > expand on it. Can we control that?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > A mother had two sons. She raised each with the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > care and
> > > > > > > > > > > > upbringing. She also taught them unconditional love,
> > > > > > > > > > > > respect,
> > > > > > > > > > > > spirituality and kindness. However, one of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > brothers raped and
> > > > > > > > > > > > murdered women. Why did he turn out this way? An idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > similar to
> > > > > > > > > > > > what you call collective mentality was instilled into
> > > > > > > > > > > > him, yet he
> > > > > > > > > > > > deviated away from it and condemned himself to a life
> > > > > > > > > > > > evil. What
> > > > > > > > > > > > happened?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > If your quest is to find a key, you need to explore all
> > > > > > > > > > > > neighborhoods,
> > > > > > > > > > > > you can't skip the slums and expect to find it. You
> > > > > > > > > > > > need to analyze
> > > > > > > > > > > > everything from all angles, even the hard ones. A math
> > > > > > > > > > > > problem can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > be half-solved.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:35 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't help but remain focused on the introduction.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rosey declared
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that "men" are evil? Is that "gender" specific or a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > generalization of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > humanity? I just can't see Rosey making such a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > statement. Could you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > provide me with a reference to such argument? I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > guess I must have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > missed that one.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 4:58 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evil.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve argued with Rosey about saying men are evil.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It’s too easy an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > excuse to go kill somebody.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I do think is Evil is a product of man, not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some devious force or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that born in sin crap.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The actions of men, the ‘Way it is Now’ in Society
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > allows for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > creation of an entity of Evil. Oppressive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > government and corporate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > greed are two examples of Evil that is simply the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > product of man.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know there are a lot of people who would read
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that and say, “Yea,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m glad I live in the U.S.”; I hang my head and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cry. Government is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the many headed beast of Revelations and the U.S.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is the main brain.
>
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>
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