ID10;
You have resurrected this thread from the grave and have offered some
very stimulating ideas.  I hope there will be some response from the
minds that be.  I'll be back but I must feed the beasts that be, so
later.
Slip

On May 11, 4:53 pm, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> I found it wonderful that slip disc started this discussion. and I
> think only by this kind of communication and connectivity with each
> other we can eventually achieve the collective mentality or whatever
> it is that would in my eyes connect humans all over the globe and
> allow them to think together and discuss and eventually make
> decisions!
> I wanted to read more into the answers before making my contribution,
> but due to the lack of time I will just paste my ideas that I wrote
> two weeks ago before I just forget about it.
>
> These are just ideas and brain storming about how to avoid war:
>
> "change the way politics is done, and the way decisions are made, also
> decisions in industry because economy is the driving force. how can we
> make the car industry for example decide to invest in environment
> friendly technologies when just selling more cars with a hazardous
> technology is more profitable?
>
> also the war industry is probably a big motor for the big wars to
> happen, this is a problem too. the one who benefits from a war would
> always want to make war. guarantee that this would not happen by
> changing the system accordingly? having no private industries with
> that potential? and maybe someday change the way humans function and
> think?
> achieve a system of wealth distribution among all humans.
> it seems when war is profitable for some people, then it will probably
> happen. we must first really understand why war happens, there are
> different scenarios and reasonings, it's a complex process that needs
> scientific analysis and understanding.
>
> but what can we contribute? we can use the internet. awaken more
> awareness among humans from all nations. make a platform for us all to
> communicate and relate to each other, because after all citizens are
> the ultimate driving force and are capable of forcing politicians and
> changing their destinies. we can use the internet to create this
> collective mentality by communicating with each other and creating a
> medium for us to express ourselves and maybe we will have a voice loud
> enough to say no to war and stop it too."
>
> The bottomline is, and this has been pondering on my mind for a while
> now as the only solution to many problems I find us facing, that we
> must create a kind of global forum using the internet. This kind of
> thing is probably not possible to achieve yet for the lack of capable
> software, but I see things moving in this direction, as we are already
> discussing issues on this forum from anywhere on earth.
>
> The important thing to achieve that I guess is the ability to organize
> information and connect them with each other. short suggestion:
> Relevant to this are a hypertext format that I saw Ted Nelson I think
> in an old footage talking about, he created that in the 70s already.
> I'm not sure whether it's Xanadu or maybe this is something else. Also
> being able to give meanings to the words in the semantic web, and
> having more connections. eventually as it's the goal of google to
> organize all human knowledge, finding a way to really organize the
> internet content in a way if you are looking for e.g. global warming
> you would be able to track all articles written about it and all
> related forums in an organized overview. And also having the web
> imbedded in a communication medium such that when a person posts
> something about any topic every human would be able to see and answer
> but still every thing is managable and user friendly. It's about
> intelligent organization and visualization of information such that
> lots of info can be easily used when communicating with each other.
>
> this achieved then it would be very easy for people to talk about
> world politics and have a clear way to express their opinions and
> demands to politicians. also this way scientists would be able to
> discuss issues from a scientific perspective and tell the politicians
> where to go. and ultimately being connected with each other, we are no
> enemies anymore..
>
> On 25 Apr., 05:40, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > We know of the Collective Intelligence and Collective subconscious
> > concepts but can we ever achieve the Collective Mentality?
> > Planet Earth, the CosmicWarZone, perpetually embroiled in conflict.
> > Wherever you look for peace most likely you will findwar.  Can we
> > ever overcome this primordial instinct of waring?
> > We have covered many areas of the mind, of dreams, quantum theorems,
> > emotions and ideologies.  Let's take a breather and take a serious
> > look at how we can create an exchange of peaceful ideals by
> > interlocking all of humanity within the collective intelligence. I
> > know at first it appears as an oxymoron considering the collective
> > idiocy that now dominates the earth realm.  However, I think it might
> > be possible to engage all of humanity within a Collective Mentality.
>
> > Do you think this is at all possible.  By what method would you pursue
> > this global metamorphosis? Are we as a global community doomed to
> > perpetual waring?  Is there a reason/point/goal for waring?  Is there
> > some spiritual aspect towarin that the elimination of another is of
> > benefit?
>
> > I see no accomplishment inwarexcept death without any positive
> > result other than rebuilding post destruction.
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