You've spoken eloquently to your point, and I find no fault with your
perspective. I must, however, refer you back to the posting guidelines when it
comes down to the overall attacking nature of your post. Whether or not it's
accurate is irrelevant; it's personal, and that's the one thing we try to
curtail. It does nothing to further rational discussion.
If you feel a continued need to express these things to her, I would ask that
you attempt to either approach them with some mode of civility, or take them
off list. The only thing that seperates the Mind's Eye from Epistemology is our
attempts to keep the conversations more or less friendly, even in disagreement.
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"... On May 11, 9:46 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
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> Archytas has commented many times on the suffocation of civility, the
> falseness of platitudes. I think he appreciates a good row for the same
> reason he offers so many of his personal deconstructions of our sacred cows.
> I have a healthy cynicism towards many things, and appreciate the wisdom his
> years offer. I feel much the same towards your offerings.
In the words of Francis, thanks for the flowers.
> It's an easy reaction to lash out against sacharine responses which seek to
> placate but fail to engage, especially when one has lived what Tom Robbins
> might describe as an Outlaw life. I appreciate that perspective more than
> you might expect. "Gruff-ness" would be the expectation in response to
> something that strikes you as patently false lip service.
Aye, I've been an outlaw and then some but now I'm a reformed
evangelist for reality and truth. I've also enjoyed the duality of
my handle since adopting it, but more than gruffness, I've always
favored being the goat in the middle.
> As a follow up question though, from someone who has often been too quick to
> use acerbidity to melt through anything that struck me as potentially
> bullshit (for which I'm pretty sure Ornamental STILL thinks of me as a world
> class jackass):
Well, you must consider the source though it seems Orn has tamed his
touch a bit.
> Would you feel the same if you knew Molly absolutely and
> sincerely believed 100% every word she said?
Oh, I've no doubt she does but I find that no excuse. I tire easily
of people who live in denial and in denial of their denial. In fact,
I'd be more respectful if she knew she was pumping out first rate
bullshit. That would at least be real.
She reminds me, obliquely of course, of a man I've known for more than
forty years. Jan's life has been one colossal failure after another
and it's always been the other person's fault. He has driven away
anyone who has ever cared about him with his abject denial and placing
the blame on everyone else. This man is close to my age and in his
receding years has become purely mean and hateful, but it's still
everyone else's fault. Point out to him in an undeniable manner his
own responsibility for his life and he goes into a rage. I think his
only purpose in life is to prove that one may get from one end of life
to the other without ever dealing with reality.
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